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Posted at December 31, 1969, 6:00 pm: saw it, felt less moved. i think the only real relationships we felt here were: - wolverine to jean - the professor to the group WARNING: "for xmen3" spoilers below View Spoilers Hide Spoilers these relationships were tangible, emotional, and intense. i cried when the professor died because patrick steward (god save Capt. Picard!) had established a strong love for his kind, a clear protective leader, mentor and fatherlike bond with his students. his entrenchment into the very being of everyone at his school is clear, even for those who have left and returned (Beast). thus it was intensely real to see his nearly saintlike sacrifice in the face of one child's blind attack. jean's struggle was also palpable for about 75% of the movie. however, the other 25% was what really counted. her listlessness and gameness to go along with magneto make no sense. basically, her very character follows plot actions that contradict the very nature of her existence. she is not capable of being used. one could argue that she is capable of using others or letting others use her so she can get what she wants, but not simply allowing herself to be used because she's mercurially in the mood at the moment. the argument is that she is about desire and joy, immediate gratification, irrational, illogical, with one constant - herself, and her wants/needs/fears/rage/suspicion. thus she should trust no one, including magneto. how could she go with him so quickly, yet literally flay the skin off wolverine? wolverine's love was also palpable, though there was some stupidity going on there about his wakening jean. that was as contradictory as jean's going with magneto. he is a man of principle. deciding to stay and work with the professor means he respects him, even if he's hot tempered. he may have a big fight but he respects the professor, and the professor of course would have good reason and great knowledge about what he's doing with jean. how can wolverine suddenly discount all that, and mess around in a lab with someone he knows is in a delicate mental state? if he loved her so much, and was so concerned for her well being, would he seriously mess around with her while her mind was a jumble clearly being handled by someone else? isn't there a danger he'll make things worse? these relationships were tangible, emotional, and intense. i cried when the professor died because patrick steward (god save Capt. Picard!) had established a strong love for his kind, a clear protective leader, mentor and fatherlike bond with his students. his entrenchment into the very being of everyone at his school is clear, even for those who have left and returned (Beast). thus it was intensely real to see his nearly saintlike sacrifice in the face of one child's blind attack. jean's struggle was also palpable for about 75% of the movie. however, the other 25% was what really counted. her listlessness and gameness to go along with magneto make no sense. basically, her very character follows plot actions that contradict the very nature of her existence. she is not capable of being used. one could argue that she is capable of using others or letting others use her so she can get what she wants, but not simply allowing herself to be used because she's mercurially in the mood at the moment. the argument is that she is about desire and joy, immediate gratification, irrational, illogical, with one constant - herself, and her wants/needs/fears/rage/suspicion. thus she should trust no one, including magneto. how could she go with him so quickly, yet literally flay the skin off wolverine? wolverine's love was also palpable, though there was some stupidity going on there about his wakening jean. that was as contradictory as jean's going with magneto. he is a man of principle. deciding to stay and work with the professor means he respects him, even if he's hot tempered. he may have a big fight but he respects the professor, and the professor of course would have good reason and great knowledge about what he's doing with jean. how can wolverine suddenly discount all that, and mess around in a lab with someone he knows is in a delicate mental state? if he loved her so much, and was so concerned for her well being, would he seriously mess around with her while her mind was a jumble clearly being handled by someone else? isn't there a danger he'll make things worse? all really weird, valid, obvious issues the film just rushed over. i haven't thought it all out yet but i give it a 3 out of 5. okay, but just okay. too much fell short to balance it. but, living in the bay area, i must say that the golden gate bridge scene was pretty awesome. heh. Original of the message was taken from http://www.movieforums.com/community/ Previous Post: Quote: Originally Posted by Yoda Maybe people... Next Post: Quote: Originally Posted by chicagofrog i do ... |