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Posted at August 25, 2011, 4:23 pm:

I see that most people on here seem to think that cutting out sodium and raising potassium to ridiculously high levels is the best way to shed excess water. Not only can this process be dangerous (even fatal if grossly overdone) it is not that effective. You see, in terms of ADH (anti-diuretic hormone) decreasing sodium intake will reduce ADH output. However, your water and ion levels are controlled by several hormones, not just one. Think about it, your body doesn't want to lose alot of water. Why? B/c an increased urine volume means decreased blood volume, decreased blood volume means decreased blood pressure; which is dangerous in the short term as it decreases the amount of blood to and from the heart.

so if you lower your sodium and increase your potassium, the body will fight water loss... how does it do this????? By increasing aldosterone. Aldosterone is member of the steroid hormone family and it's production is stimulated by EITHER an increase in blood concentrations of potassium or a decrease in concentrations of sodium. Just wait, it gets better... aldosterone attaches to receptors on the distal tubule and on the collecting duct (part of the nephron... the functional unit of the kidney) and causes water to be reabsorbed into the interstitial fluid. So instead of excreting this water via urination, your body will retain it to increase your blood volume and return your blood pressure to normal.

Just goes to show you that you can't fool your body, it is a lot smarter than you are... that's what millions of years of evolution will do for you.

Your best strategy for losing water (if you don't want to take illicit drugs) is to use a moderate approach. Sodium loading isn't a bad idea starting about 10-15 days out, but when you deplete don't take it to ridiculously low levels... stay within 1-2g per day. By the same token don't load on a bunch of potassium, eat the amount of potassium you normally would.

-Layne

Original of the message was taken from http://forum.bodybuilding.com/

Replies:

I agree.

if you had 4 to 5 gallons a day you would pee non stop i think 2 gallo...

don't agree with this either, not only is it unhealthy and dangerous, ...

I keep water high till Friday late afternoon, then abruptly cut intake...

this is the approach i favour also.

bump

although i dont understand most of your post.

the lesson here is that yes you should reduce your sodium, but don't d...

thanks thats much easier for me to understand.

don't agree with this either, not only is it unhealthy and dangerous, ...

you need to go take a course on physiology.

you need to take a course on getting on the stage, because there are a...

too bad i've done competitions and placed well.

yes i am so impressed now, you defintely are everything youre made out...

haha you are funny.

no, no, no i fear your extensive textbook knowledge.

I'm one week out in those pics, so we'll see who laughs last

sloowdown, you obviously have something personal against Layne, but he...

your all pencil necks, my traps are bigger then ronnie's legs.

i only attacked him when his reponse was "you have obviously neve...

I agree, and people who "claim" to know it all are usually t...

what can i say guys.

Sloowdown.

well shit.

Nobody said your college degree was a waste of time or that it doesn't...

Perhaps think about WHY you're doing such a great job at making friend...

I"m sorry I started this thread, next time I'll keep info to myse...

Give Layne a break, he's carb depleted.

well it's not an excuse if I was being an ass.

well , Layne I really respect the fact that you dont care what other p...

I've been reading both your and Dr.

I would keep water constant and NOT do much of a carb up.

So if you do a little sodium loading 15 days out, how would you do tha...

you can increase salting your foods are just consume foods that contai...

I up my sodium using condiments the wk.

Layne, has plenty to back up his wealth of knowledge, 2 pro cards this...

This fellow BB did exactly what Layne and Dr.

I think figure athletes should follow the same protocols as bodybuilde...


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