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Posted at August 27, 2013, 9:11 pm: I've been a long time reader of BB.com articles (not forum) and am currently studying to become a personal fitness trainer at a tech school and then finish up a Bachelors of physical education degree at a university. Basically I've decided to stop persuing football for the time being and have gotten into body building recreationally for now and potentially competitively in a few years. I used to be a defensive tackle, albeit a more athletic appearing one than most, 6'2" tall and weighing in at 265lbs in september 2005. Long story short, last year I was forced to go on an academic holiday from football. During this longer than usual off season I started looking at myself more and realised I was really getting kind of fat. Not obese persay, but bigger than I'd like to be. I wasn't sure about where my potential football career was going yet but I decided to start regulating my eating a little. Especially in my carbs and fat departments (which was damned hard because I lived in dorms), and while still trying to get stronger managed to cut down to 245lbs "by accident" by mid april 2006. It was at this point that I would say I was the strongest I have ever been in my life. After a talk with coach it was "mutually" decided that university football at least for the next year might not be much of an option for me, and I quickly decided that all this excess fat has to go. It's been a summer of insane training and I am now down to 220 lbs. I use various supplements but I will strictly refer to the fat burners I have used for the summer May: I used no fat burners, just an extremely regulated diet and was 238ish by the end of May. June: One month of Hydroxycut hardcore with a good diet. Ended June about 228 lbs July: Used Hot Rox immediately after hardcore ran out for 3 weeks (it's damn expensive) and ended up about 220 lbs I am definitely more cut up in my shoulders and arms than before, as well as in my legs and have lost a substantial amount of abdominal fat (went from 38 inch waist to a 34, and the 34" pants are starting to get a little loose now too). I am currently off of any fat burning supplements and am having trouble regulating my diet based on this. I eat a 40% protein, 40% carb, 20% fat diet. Or do my best to maintain that diet. I currently eat just under 4000 calories a day ~3800ish. I work outdoors in the sun landscaping and groundskeeping all day, then hit the gym and generally go hard for 45 mins- 1.25 hours, and I ride my bike everywhere. I bike ~40 km's a day. I haven't done any body fat% measurements but based on other people's pics I figure I am likely around 14-16% currently. I have been plateau'd at 220 lbs for 2-3 weeks now. I took the time off of the fat burners as i didn't wanna become too dependant on caffeine. I expected the rate of fat loss to drop but not to stop altogether. I am likely going to use the hydroxycut hardcore again next week. Either way though this last bit of fat is being extremely stubborn. I am at the point now where you can really feel those abs I've been building under that fat and if the light hits you the right way you can see them just a little bit and I could really use some tips on how to get these babies to start showing! Also my body seems to have an affinity to storing fat in my "love handles" so I can see the 6 pack coming in, however the handles are still there. I know there is no such thing as spot reducing per se... but any tips on potential ways to remedy this problem as well are welcomed Edit: Forgot to say, the ~3700 calories is 8ish meals 6 am. Breakfast- 2 slim fast shakes, spoonful of peanut butte 9:15 am. Break 1 meal- Mega milk mixed with skim milk, fruit source ba 11:30 am. Lunch- 4 slices whole wheat hi fibre bread, 8 slices turkey breast deli meat, mustard. Cottage cheese or celery with peanut butter 2:00 pm Break 2 meal- same as break 1 4:00 pm. Pre work out- Whey Protein blend powder, cottage cheese, skim milk, nutella or peanut butter shake 4:25 pm During workout- sip 591ml gatorad 5:30 pm Post work out- Protein isolate shake, protein bar 7:00 pm Supper- This varies greatly and could be my problem meal. Generally chicken or fish, vegetables and white rice or whole grain pasta. Sometimes I might eat a couple spoon fulls of cottage cheese and maybe an apple before bed or sometimes a tall glass of skim milk. If i eat before bed it's 300 calories max and mostly protein. Original of the message was taken from http://forum.bodybuilding.com/ Replies:Nobody has any suggestions? Or am I doing basically anything I can an...dude. I like long story posts as long as they have paragraphs . I was going to say the same thing. just wanted to put in my two cents. xlgcx- Yeah, I definitely loved the hardcore. what about an ECA (which I am assuming means Ephedrine, caffeine, and ... You are eating too much per day. Hey, For breakfast I do, cheerios, juice, and whey. hmmmmmmmm. Other Topics of Body Building:Georgia's Strongest Man 2006Holy crap. Test E 3 weeks in Negative Speed on Bench military press dream tan #1 or #2..?? 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