Topic: Anyone use their Voyager alongside Ableton Live?

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Posted at September 6, 2005, 10:21 am:

Hi.

I posted this on the Ableton forum but I was hoping someone here may use Ableton alongside their Moog and may be able to help me.

I'm currently hoping to add my Moog Voyager (I'm sure this probs will apply to any MIDI-enabled keyboard) to my club set. However I'm experiencing some dificulties.

I want to be able to record a loop live and then have it loop over and over.

This works like a dream if I record as audio (hit record then 4 bars later hit the play button to start it looping). But I want more!!!

I want to be able to record the loop as midi so that I can then tweak the synth parameters whilst it's looping up (eg, tweak cutoff etc whilst looping up the midi notes pattern).

Here's the problem:

I record a 4 bar loop and only touch the keys on the keyboard (no knob tweaks) with the intention that only note on/off gets recorded and no midi CCs. When I hit play to play back my newly recorded loop I turn off the record arm (or just the overwrite button) so that I can tweak without recording the tweaks. however, when my loops loop back to the beggining, all the parameters "jump" to their positions at the time of recording. I may be sweeping the filter cutoff down smoothly but then at the beginning of the loop, it will jump to the high cutoff seting I recorded at. Very annoying.

It is as if a "snaphsot" of current knob positions is recorded.

Even more strangely, a snapshot is only recorded of those parameters which ableton has "heard" being tweaked. Let me explain... If I add a new MIDI track and record a clip without having tweaked any parameters, no snapshot will have been recorded. If I then wiggle the cutoff and then record another clip it will record a snapshot but only of the cutoff position. Next if I wiggle res then record a clip it will record a snapshot of cutoff and res (as well as any note on/off information). The track doesn't need to have been armed for it to "hear" a tweak and later create a snapshot of it. As long as the Midi track exists and the right MIDI input is selected it will "listen" for CCs and record a snapshot of these when recording.

Any idea how this can be fixed? Does it sound like it's Ableton or my Moog being naughty?

Regards

Gareth

Original of the message was taken from http://www.moogmusic.com/forum/

Replies:

This is correct.

It's definitely live that's doing this - the voyager has no capacity t...

Yes, live will let you see the recorded data.


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