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Posted at July 27, 2006, 11:45 pm: I just picked up a Moogerfooger CP-251 to go with my synthesizers.com setup; I figured I could use the extra processing and CV stuff without having to start another DotCom cabinet just yet. However, when I started using the CP's sample and hold section, I was confused by the fact that the S+H's output range seemed to be very narrow, producing just a minor warble in the pitch of my DotCom oscillator rather than the wild "calculating" that I've gotten from sample and hold circuits before. Here's a sound demo: [url]Http://www.hardtoexplain.net/hortonmusic/CP251 normalled noise.mp3[/url] I had noticed that the CP-251's noise output, when used as an audio, was pretty weak and quiet, so I started to wonder if this was to blame for the "weak" sample and hold output, as the CP's noise generator is normalled to the sample and hold input. So I patched my DotCom's noise output into the CP-251 to override its normalled noise, and then the sample and hold's output was much more like what I expect from a straight sample and hold--->oscillator patch. Sound demo: [url]Http://www.hardtoexplain.net/hortonmusic/DotCom Noise as Source.mp3[/url] That's more like it! So, here's what I'm wondering - did I get a bum noise source in my CP-251, or are all of them like that? It seems weird that the onboard noise would be so weak on purpose, since when sampled by the S+H circuit, it produces a very unremarkable output effect. Whether I patched it to my oscillator or to filter cutoff, the result was ho-hum at best. But when I overrode the CP's internal noise with my DotCom's noise source, the result was perfect! If all CP's are like that, I guess I'm willing to just always plug my DotCom's noise output into it to override it, but it seems abnormal and I wonder if I need to just exchange my CP or get it fixed. What are your experiences? Original of the message was taken from http://www.moogmusic.com/forum/ Replies:Maybe it's the normalling.the synthesizers. Other Topics of Moog Music:Problem with 103 output and 102 alsoMF-102 with bass Tuning problem again... quick question between the source/prodigy Sausage fest Voyager RME edit button problem [?] Got your Phatty? What are the 'surprise' features? Controller reset between patches? Can anyone explain why my new voyager is like this? pitch bend problem Size Comparison: Mg-1 vs. Rogue Curious about CV and VX-351 and Minimoog Voyager. need info about multimoog who knows about this song ?thank u for your help! GREAT ANALOG OVERDRIVE moog expression pedal Deleted 3.1 thread. Ok ? Voyager backlit panel questions MURF PSU question? Dilemna The Art of Playing the Theremin Die Kunst des Thereminspiels Help... micromoog scaling issue The Day After / Is The Enthusiasm Waning Sonic Infinity Ad Campaign poster TB303 or other analogue type modulations MuRF samples phasers MoogFEST 2006 ! upgrading from OS 2.3 to 3.1? Any 104SD owners that also ordered a 104Z Mini or Voyager? Manual Substitute for MF-104 Murf Cheat Sheet- Pinout for DB25 I/O connectors? Pitch what will they name it? Voyager OS 2.6 Wendy Carlos remembers Bob Moog Real Analog Control? No digital processing? Osc sync and envelope control of pitch? It's here!!! Are patches copyrightable? Touch Pad Care and Cleaning OUT OF THE BOX MINIMOOG Crooked Mod Wheel? concerns about the mod buss and vco 2 some vintage gear and publications on the auction block |