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Posted at December 26, 2014, 7:46 pm:

Seeing as how there isn’t one large Nightwish thread for fans to discuss the band, and since Nightwish are one of my favorite bands, I have taken it upon myself to do a writeup for one of the most original and brilliant bands of our generation
Nightwis
Members
Currently
Marco Hietala - Bass/Vocal
Marco is Tarja’s harmony: gruff to her cleanness. Marco has a more traditional power metal voice...it conveys emotion just as well, though in a more evil way. His voice is truly a sound to hear...it adds a whole other dimension to the band’s music. As well as backing vocals, he also has the distinction of being the band’s bassist. Although he follows along with the guitar on most of their songs, you can actually HEAR the bass, which is a rarity in modern music
Emppu Vuorinen - Guitar
Emppu is a severely underrated guitarist. He can belt out tremendous riffs, and his solos are as good as any other guitarist of today. He can shred among the best of them, and his playing is full of emotion
Tuomas Holopainen - Keyboards/Synth
Tuomas is not only one of the most essential parts of any power/symphonic metal band, he also has the award of being the band’s composer, having composed almost all of their material. Even after 5+ albums, he still has brilliant ideas in his head. The evolution of their music is present in his composing abilities: Angels Fall First was their most folky, Oceanborn was their most power-metalish, Wishmaster added symphonic elements while still keeping the power metal elements, Century Child added even more symphonicness, and Once was their most symphonic release yet. He can compose epic power metal masterpieces, truly beautiful ballads, and everything in between. Put anybody else in his place, and Nightwish would have crashed and burned. However, he has the ability to place Nightwish at the top of the pack
Jukka Nevalainen - Drums/Percussio
Another sorely underrated member of the band, Jukka is a terrific drummer. He can play double bass like nobody’s business, and he alternates drum beats so quickly, at times it seems as if he has 6 or 7 limbs. He adds a great beat to great songs, making them even greater
Other members
Sami Vanska - Bass (he left before Century Child
Although Sami didn’t stand out much, he did his part. He played great bass riffs, and they were audible, which was even better. Even though he left, he helped shape Nightwish
Tarja Turunen - Lead Vocals (kicked out in 2005
Tarja is arguably one of the best singers of our generation. Her voice has unsurpassed emotion, and she can hit amazing highs. Her voice is a bit different than vocalists in a normal band...she has an operatic soprano voice singing along with power/symphonic metal music. Some may say her voice is too trained; I say psssh to them. Without Tarja, the band would NOT be the band they are today

Discography
Angels Fall First (1997
Oceanborn (1998
Wishmaster (2000
From Wishes To Eternity *live album/DVD* (2001
Over The Hills And Far Away *EP* (2001
Century Child (2002
End Of Innocence *DVD* (2003
Once (2004
Greatest Hits *soon to be released
Nightwish got their start in the summer of 1996, around a campfire. Tuomas was camping with a few friends, and he dreamed up the idea of the band. The band (who, at the time, were Tarja, Emppu, and Tuomas) entered the studio at the end of 1996 to record a few acoustic songs. Jukka entered the band in 1997, and the band became more metal-oriented with the addition of the drums and an electric guitar. They recorded 7 songs in April of 1997. Soon after, the band signed a recording contract with Spinefarm for a 2 record deal. Nightwish entered the studio again in August to record 4 new songs. Angels Fall first was released in November of 1997, and didn’t make too much progress on the charts (the highest it ever got was 31st in Finland)
Their first show was played on December 31st of 1997
(Interesting fact - Nightwish only played 7 shows in the following winter owing to the fact that Jukka and Emppu were in the army
At this time, Nightwish had no bassist. Luckily, in the summer of 1998, Sami Vanska joined the band on bass, and the band entered the studio once again to begin recording songs for their new album. This album, entitled Oceanborn, was released on December 7th of 1998. Suprisingly, the album was a success, landing 5th on the official Finnish album charts. The album’s single, Sacrament Of Wilderness, was number 1 for weeks. The album went gold in August
Nightwish went back into the studio in 2000, having renewed their contract with Spinefarm the previous year for one more record. (Interesting fact - During this period, the band took part in the Eurovision Song Contest, to take a break from the repetitiveness of recording. They entered their song Sleepwalker, and placed second in the final round despite overwhelming results.) Their new album, entitled Wishmaster, was a huge hit. It went straight to number 1 on the charts, and stayed there for 3 weeks. During this period, the album went gold. The band went on a world tour to promote their album, and they cite it as one of the best experiences they’ve ever had
Nightwish’s next project was their live DVD and cd, only available in Finland. They recorded this on December 29, 2000, and it was released in April of 2001. The band then went into the studio in March to record the 4 song EP Over The Hills And Far Away. In addition, they extended their record deal with Spinefarm for one more full length album. Nightwish almost disbanded after this. Tuomas cited their were prolonged disagreements with him and the band, and they had to change. Luckily, the band didn’t disband
However, bassist Sami Vanska had to leave the band, which turned out to be a blessing in disguise. His replacement was none other than Marco Hietala, of Tarot and Sinergy fame, among others. (Interesting fact - to celebrate what the band called their “new beginning”, the official Nightwish-Shop was opened on the band’s homepage, which is home to a bunch of quality Nightwish products.) Recording of their new album, Century Child, began in January of 2002
Century Child came out in May of 2002. It was a bit different then their previous albums: it was a LOT more symphonic, favoring a more emotional sound to their more powermetalish sound of earlier albums. However, the album didn’t disappoint...it sold gold in Finland within 2 HOURS! Within 2 weeks, it had sold platinum. Century Child ended up being Finland’s 2nd best selling album
Nightwish’s new DVD End Of Innocence was released on October 6, 2003. (Interesting fact - The president of Finland took note of Nightwish’s success, and invited Tarja and her husband Marcelo Cabuli to the annual independence-day party held at his manor. Tarja’s dress was voted the most beautiful dress that evening). The band had already started recording for their new album, Once (arguably one of their most important albums). The band had a new distribution contract: they were now being distributed by Nuclear Blast, though Spinefarm still distributed them in Finland. Once was released in 2004, and went gold the day of its release. This album was arguably their most popular, selling hundreds of thousands of copies. The album also saw a change for the band...they were at their most symphonic. The band recorded with a full orchestra and chorus
In the 4th quarter of 2005 (I think), Tarja and Nightwish came to a parting. Tarja was kicked out, and the band is currently looking for a new singer
And finally, the part most of you have been waiting for...Uploads!!
From Angels Fall First
*I do not yet have this album...if anybody would like to upload songs from here, feel free to
From Oceanborn
hxxp://s41.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0PTNDUO12BH703NNLZUO010C1
Devil And The Deep Dark Ocea
A personal favorite of mine, this is a more driving song. Great drumbeats throughout, and the deep male vocals on this song are grea
hxxp://s41.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2D1G5ZEO3VQFC2EE52OM948T7
Gethseman
Brilliant guitar, brilliant piano, brilliant vocals...just a plain brilliant son
hxxp://s41.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0FPQEGFJWKH13V3NYKM75IMZ
Sacrament Of Wildernes
The band's single. Features a few good riffs and great vocal
hxxp://s41.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=26X8VGL8RGFI91F20KDILS8BB
Sleeping Su
A hidden track, and one of the best Nightwish...hell, one of the best BALLADS ever recorded. The last part is sheer emotion. Don't miss i
hxxp://s41.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1OYT5ROIRTL0801BKB6C4CNP
The Pharaoh Sails To Orio
The best track on the album. Great piano/drums, and reason to silence those who say Emppu is a so so guitar player
From Wishmaster
Crownles
hxxp://s43.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1TSLPMFFLDWO023SFPZU58YEQ
One of Nightwish's best...has one of the most memorable intro riffs eve
Dead Boy's Poe
hxxp://s43.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1V9ZXBHB02Y3A1MF5U5MF8APO
Another ballad, this one is a bit heavier, yet still hauntin
Fantasmi
hxxp://s43.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1M03OYYT4IZCJ1FNLDTIL8ZOY
The "epic" song on the album. Has some great riffs in it
The Kinslaye
hxxp://s43.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0VQQAALSIOO611AKTYTGSSOVO
One of the band's singles (i think). Has a great intro with an odd time signature
Wanderlus
hxxp://s43.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0KHZ1NGXYRQN51IG1NOGOYYN6
A personal favorite. Has a beautiful chorus and intr
Wishmaste
hxxp://s43.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3PJZ2887PE2ZL2SATZW8VPSQTU
A great track, features the 3 note single picked gallop (or whatever Steerpike said =P
Enjoy.
If anybody has any songs they thought I omitted and should have uploaded, or any rare Nightwish material, don't hesitate to upload it
LOOK TO POST 19 FOR REST OF UPLOADS

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Replies:

I haven't listened to Nightwish much but what I have heard I like.

Nice write-up.

*Gagging Orger steps in, because he wants to take advantage of uploads...

Nice thread.

Nigtwish are an amazing band with a hot vocalist of course, she has su...

hey just heard of these guys like a couple days ago, i really dont lik...

Actually, it's very common for power metal vocalists to have theatrica...

I've heard Nemo and Wishmaster.

^ well when the only metal u listen to is maiden metallica and dream t...

Bruce is actually trained in musical theater in opera.

The guitar in NightWish is fine, though probably not as good as Sinerg...

This thread is great and its one of the few that ive actually read.

Well Nightwish from what I have heard, isn't very focused on leads, an...

i did not kno that, thanx for the info

Most of the melody is carried by vocals.

I thought that Wishmaster using a galloping triplet single-note melody...

haha I thought I'd see you do something on Nightwish Great thread b...

I wish i did.

Nightwish has been and probably always will be one of my favorite band...

Cool, I download the songs and I'll check them out in the morning.

I'm listening to some of those uploads, it is fantastic! I just picke...

Glad ya like it.

I'll download those tracks after I get the Pinl FLoyd ones from Ysi th...

o shiznit, i just googled Tarja Turunen.

I actually intented to do that in the future.

I love nihtwish, but all the uploads I already had except about three.

Good morning bump.

Amazing thread, Mike.

You're being unfaithful to Alexi! My friend looks almost exactly...

No I'm not! I said he was hot, not fuck worthy.

Maybe Emppu's part of the Aryan race.

I used to really like them, but i have gone of them abit.

Very interesting and extremely readable write up with new features (ba...

I enjoyed the the write-up Shattered, but I have to come clean, I've n...

last time i listened to them i thought they sucked but that was before...

obviously *cough* Bodom *cough*

yes, this is a problem I find, you find people who like nightwish and ...

exactly woulve benn coll if that guy suprised me and did some kick *...

True.

yeah not a lot of people at my school know what it is but they listen ...

Same here.

American metal, aside from a few key exceptions, is total crap.

AGREED.

For the most part, American metal is controlled by the record execs, a...

Yes, true.

Anthrax is freaking brilliant.

great american metal iced earth dream theater savatage megadeth ...

So Dream Theater IS from the US.

You forgot Death, Manowar, Kamelot, and Danzig.

hell.

Ok.

are there any metal bands from ireland?

It's quite fantastic that Iced Earth didn't stand out as an American b...

because of you being a girl and not a sweaty male PM fan?

are u kidding tarja and christina scabbia are hot.

Well yes.

Thin Lizzy, Primordial, Cruachan.

she might, but I don't think that detracts from her overall beauty ...

She wears big dresses sometime from what I've seen and stands at the f...

Yo man, cool thread, although I haven't heard any but the singer in my...

Actually, when asked about that, Tuomas said that was all part of the ...

He lies.

hmm.

hmmm all i get is a little message in the top left corner saying metal...

she is really cool onstage, well they were only on for 4 songs at down...

Doesn't Tarja link to the company she gets her outfits from in her pro...

Hehe.

Hmph.

Is he the short hobbit like one? That makes it more amusing than ever...

I think I still would qualify as MX's official biggest Edguy/Savatage ...

Can I be MX HIM fangirl?

Yeah, that'd be Emppu.

I am the Iced earth one right? and cradle of filth

Savatage is awesome.

My dad knows a guy who looks like hobbit Elijah Wood and he gets all t...

I always thought he just made himself look like that because he crouch...

Chicks dig the metal hair.

Man, owned by the page turn.

ahah.

Can't all be Manowar.

Oil and hair on chests makes for a strangely adolescent image, eh?

i thought there hwre ex chippendale dancers

Eric Adams is another one of the metal dwarves.

alexi laiho is prety short too and joey jordinson (SP?)

Yep.

Joey Jordison doesn't count because he can never hope to be in the sam...

My god is Joey ugly.

http://www.

dani filth is bloody short

Who the hell is that?

Joey Jordison apparantly.

Yeah, her range is pretty average, but her tone is impeccable and she ...

He is one ugly sum'bitch.

Man, he's weird looking.

Well, since we should be discussin Nightwish, how about this: Joey ...

He's okay, sloppy as hell but alot better than alot of drummers today.

Is he the pirate one then? Awesome.

http://www.

Heh.

Here are some interesting facts about Tarja/Nightwish taken from a Met...

no shes the damsel gotta go midievil.

My reaction was along the lines of "Woah Andrew Llyod Webber is a...

Emppu needs a cooler part than the dwarf.

How about the minstrel? Everyone seems to associate bards and troubad...

yeah i saw him on viva la bam he looks ****ed up and he is short

he is an incredible vocalist and amazing live performer, he makes bril...

He has appalling teeth.

no he just looked greasy and i cant stand his vocals the live show at ...

Not to mention he doesn't have a beard and/or axe! I wonder who the...

Gotta love Dani's stage outfits though.

He could be the hobbit? Minus the one ring and homosexual overtones.

Hey.

Well I finaly chck out the songs and they are awsome.

Ah, my job is going well.

Yeah, if it weren't for this thread I probably wouldn't have listened ...

nah, just random girls they have onstage with angle grinders.

haha yeah, I still think Janne’s better looking though

Yes! He'd make a perfect elf.

They seem to also know Lacuna Coil and Within Temptation too.

It took me years of denial until I finally accepted that nightwish are...

I was watching music videos on yahoo and one of their songs came on.

Whoa.

Yeah, that would be cool if you could burn that for me.

Sure thing.

Sounds good, thanks.

What i thought was really weird is how Evanescence's first EP and Once...

I make a point of never listening to Amy Lee's music, but My ****ing G...

are there any nightwish songs with solos?

Plenty.

She bounces around too much on stage.

You forgot Nemo and Wishmaster.

Sleeping Sun has one too.

Im sure he was fired because Tuaomas decided he couldnt work with him ...

Once again, i said off the top of my head.

Really late to the thread, but Nightwish were a real gateway band to g...

I'm not much on Nightwish, even though I generally love Finnish power ...

Which one of the guys does the male voice in some of the songs? And w...

all i kosw is its the bassist but i dont know anymore id say the album...

Early stuff, like on Angels Fall First is Tuomas, male vocals from Cen...

To Shattered Future - brilliant thread man! Glad you made the huge eff...

Hmmm ok, thanks.

All male vocals on that album are him - he hates the sound of his voic...

So all the tracks have male vocals on? I've never heard that album.

You what? I think Shattered_Future's fanboyisms have begun to rub off ...

No, but any that you do hear are Tuomas.

Wait til you get to Slaying The Dreamer.

Oh, I'm there.

Do we have a new fanboy? OMG!

damn like we didnt have enough!

Easy now, I've only heard half of one album.

Im a fanboy for sure.

Bah, you and your traditional power metal.

nice job mike! What cd should i get now that i have Wishmaster and Oc...

Man, i wish Tarja had a bit more of a trebely sorta tone, it would mak...

Put it this way, I can tell why he only did vocals on one album.

I realise his voice is amateurish and limited but I know that Tuomas n...

I tried to Soulseek that but Soulseek hates me so thanks.

I'd like some specific examples of his sloppiness.

What's Soulseek?

I <3 that song.

I quite like marco's voice, he was pretty good live for the I wish I h...

Evilmenhavenosongs and I were discussing Tuomas' voice (I think) Marco...

Yeah, Marco has a great voice, contrasts perfectly with Tarja's I thin...

I just hadn't said anything for a while

Ugh.

Shattered_Future: these are some HIM songs, seeing as you're more like...

What's a breakdown? I know it as taking something in different parts a...

I *think* that he was talking about Jordison, for which numerous examp...

I'm not a drummer and even I can tell that sounds bad.

It's basically a metalcore term that entails any final/ending section ...

That didn't explain much.

haha, yeah I know what you're talking about.

*erm* *ahem* Looking for some of the more musically knowledgable Nigh...

By the way.

Tabs for keyboards suck.

Can you actually tab for piano? I've never seen anything like that bu...

You can, but it's extremely hard to figure out and execute.

Yeah.

Great article, Great band.

Sheet music is so much easier to read for piano than tabs.

Apparently, it's mostly in D, but mods into F for the last bit

I have an easier time reading tabs for piano than sheet music.

I hope he was.

Jukka is FAR from a sloppy drummer.

So S_F.

Uuuuuuhhhh.

ARCH ENEMY!!! DO ARCH ENEMY!!!! Finally, a female-fronted band we agre...

Fiiiiiiiine.

Just wing it.

Ok, i just spent 15 minutes looking for a decent bio.

Please don't.

I like the Burned Bridges album but thats about all i have is that and...

Ooooh yes do Arch Enemy! I can help you with uploads off of Black Eart...

I've really been getting into NW lately.

Hehe.

You can do Wages Of Sin (I don't have that), but i want Doomsday Machi...

Yeah, which is odd concerning how big they are in Europe these days.

I've never ordered from the Century Media distro before.

You did one on Arch Enemy? Why didn't you tell me!?

Nightwish? Die!

You came into MY thread, and tell Nightwish to DIE!?! I hope you...

Awesome article, but I don't really like Nightwish :-\

Ignorant.

What happened to Arch enemy!? Somebody bump it!!! Now!!!

/NP Sleeping Sun - Tarja's voice It's taken me a while to actually...

Sleeping Sun is a really cool one, I like it a lot.

Thanks for the suggestions! I haven't heard those yet.

No Nightwish is not goth, people don't know what goth is.

Calling a band gothic means they have romance-based lyrics.

Plus they have to be a bunch of pussies

Well, like Goth rock, Nightwish have a similar style of keyboard textu...

Could you recommend any other goth bands? I've stayed away from it aft...

Hmmm.

i'd have to agree.

Another good female-vocal band to check out is Epica.

Thanks Shattered_Future Sleeping Sun is breathtaking.

The original Goth rock bands were stuff like The Cure, Joy Division, B...

Thanks Ha.

Goth rock is very focused on lyrics, true.

Fields Of The Nephilim are the best Goth bands, IMO - particularly the...

How unwittingly appropriate your user title turned out to be.

That's an interesting comparison, but it makes sense.

Actually, Gothic architecture and music both create a sense of being l...

I have, my parents were married in a gothic cathedral and I visited it...

The point of Gothic art is to do just the opposite.

Haha, you all took my comment earlier WAY too seriously.

I forgive you.

That really doesn't make me think any better of you.

Cologne Cathedral certainly made me feel very ant-like.

I'm glad you took my comment so seriously.

haha well I guess I'm a goth then.

What would you do instead?

I have no clue, I just thought of this.

Personally, I like to keep my money-making seperate from my art.

I know what you mean.

Do what Robert Rodriguez did and sell yourself to science.

I read somewhere you could sell your body for $46 million.

wouldnt all males in the world be filthy rich then?

You fool!

Yeah, I'm not exactly comfortable with the idea of spawning unknown ch...

I may have mentioned this before, but I'm seeing Nightwish at the Carl...

Ha, see that might be an idea, but since I'm not a guy, I'd require an...

Bastard.

You know who kicks major ass live? Arch Enemy.

Isn't living just off the continent of Europe great ? Don't worry,...

How bout you bring a camera along for the ride??

I will be taking the digital camera with me, no fear! Might even com...

Almost sounds like what my friend did at this Battle of the Bands thin...

Hey Shattered Future i have a quiz for you.

Thanks for the introduction to Nightwish Shattered_Future I've bee...

he he - that happened to me as well.

Anyone who's been listening to me for the last couple of months would ...

but did you mention Metal Gods and Conquest? I can't recall.

My bad

Yes I did, actually.

THank you for all your inspiration guys.

Ithought you probably did mention them all - it's just I was too lazy ...

Century Child has resided in my CD player for many days now.

Gonna be a great show, methinks.

Is that the CC tour? If so then,yes I do have it! Filmed off of the in...

Yes that's the one.

Yes but that's because UK television blows goats when it comes to dece...

Yeah, I went there years ago - all the girls are gorgeous and everyone...

Right.

Nightwish is my favourite band.

No, but I have a bunch of mp3s from it.

Hey Shattered_Future, if I upload a song for you, will you let me know...

I think that I have a copy of that on my computer.

Well if it's the same one I am glad to hear that it'll be worth the mo...

Would there be the slightest chance of emailing me a couple? I have tr...

I can YSI a couple.

That would be splendid

Hehe.

Me poor underprivileged dial-up user; so no on-line video for me, I'm ...

hell yeah

Wtf has that got to do with this thread?

Those Tarot uploads will have to wait.

Seems you do have your share of technohassle! I will be a patient pers...

That would be awesome.

Welcome back mate! We have missed you, and so has this thread.

How was the DVD Rum?

Imperanon.

Bloody Great.

I've heard of them, but never heard.

hxxp://s41.

ive got the wishmaster album, its pretty good.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's the one.

Whoa.

Right so.

They play to a backing track.

i love the wanderlust intro and tarja voice is beautiful.

Amazing band.

DDM - Glad you're enjoying this great band! Always nice to have anothe...

I gotta pick up From Wishes To Eternity and Angels Fall First from Ama...

Yes you gotta! I got my Wishes from ebay for the ridiculous price (and...

Yes you must really buy that DVD now! It's awesome.

Damn you.

Yup, that's a great DVD too.

Have just found out who the support act will be for the Apollo gig on ...

sleeping sun and dead boy's poem are both great songs

They are indeed.

2 of the best ballads Nightwish has written.

Paradise Lost are bloody good.

Alot of bands do backing tracks, and if you can follow a click it shou...

The bit that I would find tough is the long gaps.

Shattered Future, I've taken the time to upload 2 Paradise lost songs ...

Ive just read something disturbing on the Wishmaster album insert Do ...

Tuomas wrote msot of the music/lyrics on century child, and he probabl...

Holopainen? T.

thats him.

awww, I thought Tarja was deep aswell.

Being a great singer doesn't automatically make you a great writer.

yeah i know.

Everyone does.

Much appreciated.

I'd imagine he only comes up with form.

I've checked, and Tuomas wrote all the tracks on Wishmaster - sharing ...

one of

Quite possibly, considering he does most of it himself, without input.

How'd ya like the P L?

are nightwish doing a UK tour at all? that would be sweet.

I think they're only playing the Carling Apollo in Hammersmith on the ...

are they sold out?

According to the Nightwish forum I think there are still a few left - ...

Quite good.

I'd be happy with a North American tour, that would include Canada A...

Er, let's hope they don't read about Ozzfest this year.

What happened with Ozzfest

Exactly.

I remember the first time I heard that song.

It must have truly been incredible hearing it come to life like that.

Iron Maiden got treated abysmally at Ozzfest - see a couple of threads...

I was watching the 'End of innocence' dvd last night, most of it was p...

Sleeping sun by nightwish is soooooo emotional.

It's called KiPA - it's the tune written for the Kitee Baseball Team b...

I actually got tickets to see them at B.

Man, that's harsh.

Cool is it on a cd?

I knew about what happened to Iron Maiden, and although Bruce Dickinso...

I almost got those too.

Amazon is so slow.

I dont know if its because im not american, out of all the things bruc...

If I had ordered FWTE from Amazon itself, it would've taken about a mo...

thats the reason why i never order stuff.

Not at all.

I've got it on CD somewhere - can't remember where though! So I have u...

Awesome thanks Rumboy

You're welcome.

My sister says shes giving you a "big big big hug"

My wife says that's enough hugs for now.

Heh.

Seconded.

That's a shame.

Yup, no computer = bollockache, that's for sure.

I haven't seen any of Nightwish's videos yet.

www.

I'll watch them after I get back from work, I still have some stuff to...

I really disliked the Wish I Had An Angel video.

Big kudos to you mate! Looks like you gave them the thread they deserv...

O, Mike I never mentioned, Great write up man It must have taken you ...

I never knew so many people were into nightwish, they are a great band...

They sure are! Can't wait for the next live DVD to come out.

Me neither! WOO-HOO Times TWO!! /watches clock as time appears to slo...

i love sleeping sun and dead boy's poem so much.

Need.

could you upload the video?

Huh? New Sleeping Sun video? The old one was cool.

Which, Wish I Had An Angel or Over The Hills And Far Away? The form...

Woo-hoo! My computer is fixed - 'twas a knackered power supply.

I feel lucky that my thread has brought you great joy.

Don't bother.

Haha yeah.

can someone upload the new video i saw pic of it and.

However, if you compare that to the Romanian video I downloaded and Ru...

Hmm.

can someone download once or over the hills and far away album?

I might later, depending on my mood.

Can someone.

How'd you like it? It's one of my favourites, along with all their oth...

I haven't fully listened to it yet.

It's really considered a demo, but what a demo.

Although Angels.

Well, Dead Boy's Poem was meant to be a sort of tribute to all of thos...

Tuomas always maintains that he has always felt an affinity with the s...

Nightwish are so fu[font=]cking great live.

Sammi could play good bass, but had little presence on stage.

He kinda just fell off the radar after Nightwish.

I was reserved about him at first, but now I agree totally.

Bumpity! So I saw those interviews posted by Det_Nosip, and they ar...

Do they still get that big fat guy to sing back-up on some songs or do...

Didn't see any evidence of the fat dude on the Romania 2004 DVD I've g...

Oh well must have stopped sing him, Tony from Sonata Artica did a pret...

Yeah, it's great.

Yeah he really thought he was in there, but Janne Warmen from COB is T...

I agree, if you look at their old promo pics, Tuomas and Tarja are clo...

Thats harsh poor Tony.

Yes, I think it's safe to say that he "knows" Tarja.

Tony's a hell of a singer, though.

What?? Janne Warmen? That doesn't sound right.

I'd have to agree, but everyone is entitled to thier own opinion.

Quoted for tr00f.

It's a Tarot album, one of the ones that have been taken out of produc...

O yea.

Quoted for agreement I just read a Nightwish concert review, and o...

Mmmmmm.

Thanks Where'd you get it? From what I know it wasn't an official re...

Somebody on here gave it to me.

Heh, I knew the possibility of hearing Tarja do a Mustaine vocal line ...

Haha.

I feel a compulsory upload coming on.

It's true Taja and Janne are married

I heard that cover too.

Here's the site: http://www.

I understood she was married to that rich Argie bloke as well.

Well, you never know.

yeah, and in her case, it might be a tad tricky to keep it a secret

Wait.

She has a husband?

Cmon people.

lol

Here's After Forever covering "The Evil That Men Do": http:...

Come on, guys.

I couldn't cos I was at work.

Well - they're good! I liked Pledge Of Allegiance better but they were...

I wish Det would redo his After Forever thread.

Have you tried gemm.

Mrrr.

Haha excellent, I'm looking forward to hearing the Maiden cover

Oh, that sucks! I'd die if I was deprived of my After Forever.

Hi Det! I wasn't angling for the whole album; I always buy my albums! ...

Haha, nice.

Right then Det - especially for you, Shattered_Future and Hells Bells ...

you guys have any live vids of them since ill never be able too see th...

Ahh that sucks, why not?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO! /sulks AF album is in damn .

Thanks I don't have any of Nighwish's live stuff either.

Thanks, but the program's Windows only.

Ewww.

how do i search for it?

Maine? Isn't that Stephen King country? I'm sure NW will do a US tour ...

yep actually steven king went to our high school my grandmothers frien...

I love it how every creepy film made in the States seems to be set in ...

yeah hes filmed a few here too i think thinner was and i cant think of...

Amityville Horror, The Fog, Salem's Lot, the list is endless.

naw not really its hard to find metal heads up there though nobody at ...

It's a bit like that where I live - rural Suffolk, in East Anglia.

Well, we had a similar thread in D&P, so I'll just link to the pic...

For Shattered_Future: This is a .

Knock yourself out.

I just found out that the live version Symphony of destruction that ni...

I think you owe me one for the KiPA upload - so how's about uploading...

They played Symphony when I saw them last year, and I believe they als...

Standby then - here's a pic of me taken a few months ago, doing my (se...

Det, tis Tarja.

Symphony of destruction? sure i will uplaod it.

Hi Det - I saw your pic in that thread on D&P - why did you use th...

Err? I linked to that post, all of the pics should have shown up.

No idea.

Cheers for that! I've just enjoyed that, and I think I'm gonna play it...

Bump.

id change it unless your going to do a new futures of metal soon?

Yay it worked! Wow, I didn't think it did, that's why I uploaded the .

Not to mention the fact that Nightwish didn't actually write that one.

What are you talking about? It was a single on one their albums wit...

"Over the Hills and Far Away" is a Gary Moore cover.

I think Home for the Oceanborn is a good idea /is and that I can't ...

Oh.

You can hear the Irishness in that song.

That sounds like such an Irish drinking song! I love it I'm not goin...

Hells Bells - did you download the Paradise Lost track I uploaded yes...

Well, that main lead that Tuomas and Emppu trade off just SCREAMS celt...

That's undoubtedly one of their best covers.

The Nightwish one is better IMO.

You and me both.

'Fraid not old chap.

Yeah, I got the track, thanks Between Nightwish and AF, I honestly...

Yeah, Nick growled on the first 2 or 3 PL albums.

Or sent to a tape recorder through a walkie talkie.

Yeah.

I hope that upload doesn't get the mods coming after you.

Well, that's the difference between "influential" and "...

That cover is so much better than the prigional, when i only had it on...

Has anyone on MX done an FA on PL? If not, I'd like to - unless Det wa...

And you have to go and rub it in our faces Sure, I haven't seen on...

Or, better yet, shoot some live video of them.

Gothic is ok, but the album of choice in my household is Icon.

I'm more of a Draconian Times guy myself.

You could always try to find some site that has the songs uploaded alr...

Well, yeah.

Great thread mate.

Well I'll try to.

I still think we should bring back the single song YSI thread.

Yeah, I'm the same way.

Me too.

I've bought quite a few albums from reading about them on the forums.

Eww.

Most of it ain't brilliant - but it was worth buying the album just fo...

"Enter" is a great album.

Stupid cd stores around here don't have any Within Temptation.

Because pop vocals are more commercially viable.

Stand My Ground has one of theheaviest riffs ever at the start - I lov...

Meh, I still like it, just like I like Blink-182.

That's a shame - I wanted to upload William Shatner's cover of Rocket ...

I think that links through email are still allowed, that's what Steerp...

My son got a keyboard last Christmas - and for over a week all we hear...

That's cool.

Pat Boone.

Listen here mate- William Shatner owns Pat Boone.

I've never heard covers done by either of them.

How do you use soulseek? If anyone can tell me I'll upload or whatever...

To search for files? You download it from www.

Well that's a duff link.

Just copy and paste the link instead of clicking on it, it should work...

Right I've installed it - now what do we do?

What's your slsk user name?

Have you heard his version of Enter Sandman? Got Another Thing Coming...

What? I've gotta hear those covers.

I've never heard of Ol' Bill doing those.

Asmodeus66 - now what - I'm all eager

I think one of the scariest covers I've ever heard was that one guy's ...

Also it's a pity the solo is so sho /look - it's finished already

Ok, I added ya, and apparently you're not online.

You guys seriously have to hear this.

/NP Pat Boone - You've Got Another Thing Coming There ya go ev...

I am now, and now you aren't Catch up with ya later I expect

I DID try.

Eww.

Meh, maybe.

hey guys whens the new vid come out?

Mmm.

They're going to spoil it, that's what I think they're going to do wit...

Im doing a nightwish song for my music tec coursework recording bare ...

Sleeping Sun's not a medieval song.

Exactly.

I haven't seen the whole movie.

Haven't you got From Wishes To Eternity - Live? It's one of the extra ...

Today was the last estimated shipping day.

I've seen clips of it, but have yet to actually pick up the DVD.

Yeah - it is that awesome! I got my copy from ebay for £5.

So you're waiting for it to arrive as we speak? Excellent! Never has s...

Every song on that DVD is a classic performance! Even the later versio...

Hehe.

That would be appreciated.

yeah vids are legal i believe

It's any copyrighted material, so I don't think I'd be able to post it...

For some odd reason, my dad won't let me.

you know on the hatecrew forum, can anyone join?

too late, already joined

Ahh that sucks.

I feel really left out of all this video stuff - I'll be retired befor...

Well, we really feel left out of all this going to see Nightwish and P...

I don't feel too bad.

Hells Bells, that video link just brings me to the yousendit homepage.

Good show! There's nothing like the anticipation of going to a great g...

Heh.

I've only heard one Therion song.

Yep, that's a Therion tune.

I saw Therion last week I can't believe I didn't say anything about i...

Oooh, now there's two Therion fans in this thread - best I obtain some...

Therion's quite awesome.

Secret of the Runes album = Rumboy, did you get that Gathering sam...

their post death metal phase albums = /typical fan response.

Yes, thanks Det - I've had to forward it to my brother's 'pooter as he...

Sure.

I'm planning to nip over to my bro's this eve, armed with a CD-R - the...

Thanks a bunch, but From Wishes To Eternity FINALLY came today! The ba...

Now you just need End Of Innocence, RJM 2003 and Romania 2004 for the ...

Halfway there.

They're pirate copies, got mine off ebay - RJM 2003 was a snip at £5.

Crap.

yay you changed the name cool

At least you'll get to see it for the first time as something more tha...

Yeah Nightwish is awesome, I love her voice, it is unique.

Why the HELL do people keep asking if I'm a girl??? No, I am a guy.

uhhhhh the avatar and the way you talk J/K

Hah, you should see some posts I made in OTHER threads.

nothing j/k i kinda like the one from over the hills or wish i had an ...

nothing j/k i kinda like the one from over the hills or wish i had an ...

Sorry sorry sorry.

Yeah - that one's rather nice! I can tell you which one of her outfit...

I like my avatar.

Yeah, I'm the same way with my avatar.

That avatar owns, especially if you know the story behind it I s...

Is it just me, or does Pat Boone look similar to Dustin Hoffman? Al...

Oi! Some of us like them two songs! Gethsemane would've been a great a...

I dunno, Tarja has great vocals on Deep Silent Complete, but the song ...

Come to think of it - in your avatar pic Tarja always makes me think s...

Deep Silent Complete is a decent song, although I probably would take ...

Hi Det - thanx for the Gathering selection pack! Am listening to it - ...

WHAAAAAAT?! Crownless is one of my favorite Nightwish songs ever.

keyboards?

Guitar.

hmm ill have to listen again zakkrandydimshrd can u play?

Actually Shattered, I've got Crownless on now, and I like it a lot mor...

I try, believe me.

Don't fret, you'll get there I'm happy that the keys in Nightwish ...

Yeah I know - Emppu is the new Iommi - "Riffmeister General"...

Hells, have you been learning these by ear, or have you found some mys...

What mystical spring of transcriptions? /shifty eyes It's all by e...

I can't read drum tabs at all either.

Now's one of the times I wished I lived in Europe.

hey shattered are there any songs on once where marco sings besides i ...

Of course.

cool my mom picked it up and was wondering.

LOL we where talking in the car about how this would make good movie m...

Alone In The Dark? I thought that was supposed to be HORRIBLE.

naw it was a cool action movie but yeah there only really big in europ...

Yes, American metal is much lesser than European.

Oh Boys! I've come back from my drum lesson, and the rest of my write-...

I read.

that would be sweet but i highly doubt he did.

SF, I have a live Nightwish show in pretty awesome quality that has Gh...

sure [email]quigfoas@yahoo.

Aaawwwww DAMMIT! I don't have an email address.

its really easy to make one on yahoo

My dad doesn't want me to make my own either.

just wondering but how old are you?

15.

so am i, so not really.

No, I meant the fact that I don't even have my own email address.

I know you probably mentioned this somewhere, but what does your dad h...

gahh viruses and bad peoples

I have absolutely no idea.

OK just top stay on topic about Nightwish.

speaking of videos what vids do you have shattered?

Live or recorded? Recorded, Tuomas (the keyboardist) did the vocals...

any that you could upload? TBATB?

Not tonight.

I have Over the Hills and Far Away and Sleeping Sun, which I uploaded ...

SWEET tks what thread is it under?

Checking now.

Yes, we all had an awesome time - except for the guy behind me who got...

yeah i can its not that comlicated if you really think about it you ju...

.....arent you supposed to be at school

Ok first off Joey Jordison is sooooo hot u ppl dont know what your tal...

either you got the wrong thread or you want to get on our bad side.

You guys are in even more luck than I thought.

OUT OF MY THREAD FOOL! Stupid noobs.

Oh God, another one fresh from The Joey Jordison School For Nobber Noo...

ooooo I mustve hit a nerve, cranky cranky but its all true

Hmm.

Maybe he is just a sad little fan boy that cries whenever someone talk...

Well, i signed up for the thing.

Recorded.

i heard a song with male vocals before marco.

Astral Romance (the one on Angels Fall First) was done by Tuomas.

i wish i coudl see it

The new video came out already? I've gotta see that.

thats the old vid.

Why do people keep spamming the NIGHTWISH thread, out of all threads.

I signed up and d/loaded the video.

Im a girl and i just dont think u should be dissing him thats all, it ...

We ain't interested.

They were - read all about it in my review, inc pics /Sorry for blata...

hummmmph

Just heard I Wish I Had An Angel for the first time.

It's not one of my faves either; a little too commercial-sounding.

Nobody cares.

Well Then Get Off Of It!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi Ted! I can now inform you that Jukka is back to playing his red Tam...

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Decipher's a masterpiece, considering the average age of the band was ...

I've already reported its behaviour on this thread - hopefully that'll...

NP: Nemo I just found out that Nemo is on the soundtrack to The Cav...

Uuuhh.

What sort of film is The Cave? Is it anything like The Descent?

Awesome.

Ok.

Excellent! Sounds like I ought to get both.

Ooooo, power metal with a beastly female singer.

Here's a synopsis I found.

People.

Fine, fine.

Yeah, Floor Jansen is a ridiculously powerful singer.

As long as Marco doesn't go too high, it should be awesome.

I love Marcos voice on Phantom of the Opera.

Planet Hell.

He sounds really awesome on The Siren too.

He sounded great when I saw Nightwish at download this year, shame the...

So, I saw the new Sleeping Sun video, and oh my god what did they do t...

You have to go to Bodom After Midnight, and click the link that's ther...

Yeah, that's what I did, the link on the Hatecrew forums isn't working...

Hmm.

Yeah, new Sleeping Sun is the suxors, unfortunately.

Yup - sounds just like The Descent; substitute Romania for The Ozarks ...

Let's just hope they don't do vocals like that on a new album.

I haven't actually heard the new Sleeping Sun version yet - where can ...

You could go and sign up for http://www.

Just heard from my bro - he's got a new NW CD that's got the new Sleep...

Really? Which is it, Highest Hopes? The greatest hits one?

Don't know.

That was a pretty limp-wristed remix.

Yes, it's Highest Hopes.

Couldn't disagree more.

Meh, okay.

Always a good thing to hope for.

, sorry Shattered_Future, power ballads just get up to a level of chee...

Cain, if you give me your email I can send you the original version of...

the new sleeping sun is pretty dodgy, there is a new bass line and Tar...

Marco was so rad when i saw him sing in Melbourne this year.

I'm just screwing around.

I've got a couple of tracks from "One Angel's Dream", and al...

Err?

Err?! Err?! What does "err" mean? Elucidate, young man.

It means I'm befuddled.

Err - ummm - it's.

Has Tarja got any solo albums / songs I could listen to? I liked the ...

I refer you to post #703 above.

Finnish folk? Sounds awesome.

Hi Ted! Saw your pics - kit looks cool, man.

It depends on where you are in the forum.

I heard Nightwish, it was good.

Thanks Ted - that's cleared that up for me! Do you want any Tarja...

Nice kit Ted.

Check ya inbox

All that's left for you to do is buy some albums.

Hi Mike, how'd you get on with those Tarja solo tracks? is it , ...

Oddly enough, as much as I hate normal opera, I'm really digging these...

Glad you like it.

For sure I guess thats the answer.

Absolutely.

I have just realised that the reason that I've only got two Tarja trac...

Could ya send me some of Tarja's solo work Rum? [email]into.

I just had one of those too.

Whoa! So it is Craziness.

That took you a long time.

Just the EP I think.

Man, it's not my fault paint tastes so good.

My bro brought round Highest Hopes last night, so I got to hear the la...

HH does go on a little and its nice and atmospheric so its wicked at t...

I've never heard either version of High Hopes.

So, I just heard those tracks off of Tarja's solo album.

Wanna hear the NW version? You know what to do.

You're an awesome person.

'Tis done.

Why thank you! Although, to be honest, I can't claim penning credits ...

Thanks much.

Hey Mike, quick update.

AIM: ChildrenOfFilth6 email: [email]anemiate@yahoo.

AIM works, thanks.

My AIM schedule is pretty sporadic, depending on my dad's schedule.

You're welcome Kudos to your friend then, they're great songs I'd co...

*Is officially a Gathering fanboy* Here's what arrived today in the...

I don't think there's too much cause for concern - that track doesn't ...

Lemme see; 40 euros for a t-shirt, double DVD, and a signed picture? I...

Ooh ooh pics pics!!! Ghost love score took more than 5 mins to put ...

I'll post some pics after I get it, by post or me-in-a-van.

I wish i could afford a new drum kit, **** my poorness.

I don't get what you mean, mate.

I heard that he is not origionally from Finland and had a different na...

I see; I don't know about that one.

Bah, all the instrument forums are filled with people who are too take...

He doesn't live in Orange County CA does he?

I wish.

A point of discussion the other night was would NW be even better if t...

I dunno.

The thought was that it would enable them to write the songs different...

Congratulations! Mapex is a ridiculous underrated company, and huge ...

Hehe.

Yes, if anything, have Marco do harmonies with Emppu.

Bass/guitar harmonies would be kickass.

It's good to get all your input on that topic - I wasn't suggesting th...

What I WOULD like to see is Tuomas with more keyboard solos.

Mmmm, I don't know about that one; I still shudder when I think of all...

Yea, but Tuomas crafts music that is ENJOYABLE to listen to.

Well, you can also look at some of the stuff that Rick Wakeman was doi...

Sorry Ted, I'm sure you're right, it's just the two words "keyboa...

hehe it seems like your mind automatically jumped to the worst example...

if they were to get a ryth guitarist then they would end up like Child...

Well, I don't think that he has progressed much from a technical stand...

I think why his keys sound so good has a lot to do with the fact that ...

Hey.

Hey! I used to like Nightwish quite a bit, but i've gone off them now.

I'll download it later Ted - BTW, what time is it with you? It's 9.

Their songs are not all like that - which albums have you listened to?

Wishmaster is my favorite, (album I mean) I love Wishmaster, Crownless...

And Kinslayer! Everyone loves The Kinslayer.

The Kinslayer is excellent.

I'm on central standard time.

Cool.

I don't sleep some nights.

What writing? Music/lyrics or prose or poetry?

Cd reviews.

Who do you write them for? Sputnik? As Shattered_Future, or as another...

Yes, for Sputnik, as myself.

I'll have a look at that then.

Wow.

I checked nightwish out, listened to a few songs.

it's just like how bands like Iron Maiden sing about mythology and his...

Nightwish is more based around fantasy lyrics, I believe.

hahaha I never thought about it that way before

when will pink floyd make a new record with gilmour and waters? i want...

yeah i kinda thought that too my mom looked at the lyrics and said &qu...

so i just checked out nightwish, does it bug you if, i repeat IF someb...

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Very much so.

i hate it when people who like death metal and all that crap say peopl...

Dude, I'm not even a Nightwish fan, but that chick can sing.

I listen to mostly melodic death.

That's rare.

i've seen a couple people one even said that Mikael Åkerfeldt's growli...

Carpenter off AFF has always seemed pretty religious tho' - I could ce...

He's probably got some of the best male vocals though.

so today (after 4 weeks of waiting) my Oceanborn CD finally came in th...

Oh I wasn't referring to the technical part, I knew that he was alread...

Yea, Oceanborn is quite a change from Once and Century Child.

Hmm.

Oh good, a list thing to do! Curse you Mike for thinking of this first...

Oh look, mine's the "heaviest" list, and Ted's and Mike's ar...

Big Nightwish and Finnish metal fan in general here! I got into Scandi...

Hi blacky! Really cool that your 1st post on the forum is in this th...

I really like Nightwish, but my computer blew up, so I lost most of th...

Erm, I think you're about 27 pages late for that one.

That, my friend, is why we buy CDs of the artists we like.

I've got virtually all the music I like on CD, but I've now got 80 hou...

I managed to back most of my music I have now up on cd, after my first...

Hi Mike! Today I had my head shaved completely, down to the skin to ra...

Awesome Rummy Anyway, top 10 Nightwish songs, not in order: Slee...

Hey guys, thanks for the warm welcome.

Haha no kidding.

I have just two songs by Nightwish.

You know, Anathema is a band that I've been meaning to check out for l...

my top 10? sure why not.

Not one song from Wishmaster? Mentioned cos it's my fave.

Or one from Angels Fall First.

Nooo! Don't just be content with that one song, there's so much of Nig...

Hey guys, I haven't posted here before, but I always keep an eye ou...

am i the only one that likes planet hell?

No, I like it a lot, but the competition for a top-ten place was too h...

wheres your list of top 10?

Page 27

Planet Hell almost made my list, actually.

Yeah, that one does come over well live - they played it last month in...

For shame!

Yes people, we all need to pitch in with the bumping of this thread.

So it seems as if Nightwish has kicked Tarja out of the band.

WHAT?!?! What makes you liiiie? Please don't lieeee.

I got an e-mail from oceansouls of america with the open letter to Tar...

I didn't get an email but a friend just told me that she left or was b...

if tarja was seriously acting like tuomas said she was, she deserved t...

Here's another article: http://www.

What??! Tarja got kicked out of Nightwish! That's sad, but sounds ...

Well.

That's true, I'll be waiting for Tarja's response to this.

Well MX has had e few problems over the last couple of days - it was d...

Yes, MX seemed to have a server crash.

I don't think I've ever posted in here, but I'd like to say I think it...

Hmmm, reading thru the posts on there it would seem to be Tuomas 234, ...

they sould have marco sing full time.

Bovio actually is classically trained as well, I *think*, she just doe...

Nah, NW with just a male singer, even Marco, would be just like hundre...

Yeah, I completely agree with that.

Just Marco wouldn't work well.

Well, look on the bright side, Mike; as I said in another thread - the...

And this is the problem.

I honestly dont think they should continue under the name Nightwish I ...

Nightwish = not Tarja

Yes they will - Nightwish is Tuomas' baby; Tarja had very little to do...

It's like with Incubus when they parted ways with Dirk Lance.

nightwish rock although at times the subject matter can irritate me a ...

Im aware that she didnt write anything etc, But I cant see them keepi...

After reading Tarja's response to this, I'm still on the boys side.

I think in some ways its a good thing.

I think NW are the best Finnish band too, but instead of mentioning th...

RumBoy: Actually, that was a german word "paska" is the fin...

do you guys think that a non operatic female voice would fit nightwish...

If the fans desert the band cos of this they ain't fans - good riddanc...

Aha! It was your use of the capital B for a double S that got me; I di...

http://photobucket.

Is that Tarja's new image on photo 2? Black Metal Surf Babe? Is this...

Well, when said by a finn, it's a sweary word indeed.

It's the hidden link between surf rock and black metal But anyways...

No.

Er, yes.

I think it's definitely one for the "What the hell does she see i...

Personally, I'm interested in seeing the operatic part of the equation...

She kept saying she didn't need Nightwish and could leave at any time.

To put it in perspective: Marcelo is Nightwish's Yoko.

You give him far too much credit.

Or to put it another way, Yoko managed to break the Beatles up, Marcel...

He looks like he should be served at a fast food restaurant.

could someone send me a link to the sleeping sun vid cause i guess i s...

What, the original? Don't know of a site but you can always buy "...

Has anyone else considered the possibility of Candice Night as a singe...

Sorry to sound thick, but who's she?

The lead singer of Blackmore's Night.

could you send a link to oceansoul (or howver its spelt) shattered kno...

I see, from your description she does sound interesting.

How about their cover of Greensleeves? I gotta give Ritchie Blackmore...

Sounds cool! I have to admit being a fan of folk-rock like Fairport Co...

Expect a delivery notice from YSI any minute now.

Does Blackmore's Night have any more full length releases other than U...

In no particular order, they released Fires at Midnight, Ghost of a Ro...

Hm, how did I miss that stuff? I guess with all the metal I've been lo...

I recommend looking into it.

I hadn't heard them before, and I downloaded some stuff.

Assuming the topic has switched back to Nightwish, you should probably...

Album with Nemo = Once, their most recent.

Check your inbox.

Excellent.

The singer from Blackmore's Night would be fantastic.

Oh good, I'm not alone.

I think she would also fit the role well voice-wise, although she does...

She would be an interesting choice, to say the least.

When a band has had the same (good!) vocalist for say, 8 or 9 years it...

Very true.

Nightwish is probably just going to have to experiment.

Yes.

Yeah, alot of other bands I choose to be a fanboy of are similar.

Piece Of Time.

Atheist.

Oh, THAT'S where I heard it from.

Century Child was also my first experience with Nightwish.

I bought it, and was like.

Uh, considering the fact that they kicked out Tarja because selling ou...

Mmm.

Heh.

It might be a good idea to have someone with a different style.

Errrr.

So, is this the kind of stuff you're talking about in here? I su...

^ Hope so, I just hope they don't completely sell out.

Nightwish would be absolutely deadly with a singer like Angela Gassow.

That would be unbelievably horrid, though funny at first.

Especially the way she's been going lately.

Somehow I think that Tuomas will get a Finnish singer again.

From a musical standpoint, though, Doomsday Machine was chock full of ...

Mine too (though I like them all) Don't hold your breath - Tuomas sa...

I personally like the way they are going.

I don't mean that the singer should have weak vocals, but there are ot...

A more mellow/less poweful vocalist would work fine for some of their ...

Apparently, Floor does vocal lessons, and a few people from the AF for...

Exactly.

Er, I'm all confused ! On the previous page, Shattered_Future and ...

mwhahaha it's something people do for halloween

Alex - cheers for the Blackmore's Night Greensleeves cover (?) (is it ...

Ooooh-er! I'm a bit scared now.

True, I guess a more mellow singer wouldn't cut it for songs like Slay...

Or Wishmaster or She Is My Sin or Kinslayer or Dark Chest Of Wonder...

Hey Dene Meh, I was too lazy to list the rest of those.

Haven't heard any Therion with female vocals.

It's on it's way

that was marika schönberg: http://www.

Material Boy - what happened to Blackadder? Your new avatar is a bit ...

Thanx Magda for the YSI.

Dene, you should pick up some Therion.

My brother's got some kicking around somewhere - it's all early stuff ...

Yes! That's a brilliant idea.

Too late.

Aww, shucks! Anyhoo, after I nominated you, you seem to be very pop...

If you're interested,I have the "Vovin" and "Deggial&qu...

I found some Nightwish rarities at my friend's house a few nights ago.

Really? Im curious,which tracks were they? I thought I had them all bu...

Lets see.

Got them.

Got them I'm afraid.

It's a pretty midpaced song.

All together now, "YSI, YSI!" (subtle hint there, Mik...

Bwahahahahahha.

Ta very much for the link - played it a coupla times, and it's not one...

OK, well I'll be clearing my hard drive on my old computer soon.

I'd very much like that 1996 demo.

Or if you don't have AIM, my MSN is symphonyofmidgard(at)hotmail.

Thanks! I'll go do that now then.

Oy, what do I want.

You know, I've been giving this whole thing alot of thought, and I've ...

You may be right, but the show that I was going to go to in September ...

Yea, I was looking at tickets for the same show.

Yeah they were, and also at their performance in London last month - w...

Well, I guess that's the thing about Nightwish.

To Neurotoxin: The 1996 Demo The covers off the Carpenter single ...

Hi Magda - nice to see you again! We need acouple of more posts to go...

Neurotoxin, Could you send me the Demo and Nemo - (Orchestral Version...

Neurotoxin could you send me errm what you think are the best of night...

Hehe, Neuro's bringing my thread publicity.

Woa Woa Woa.

Tarot's still on-going I believe (hope ).

Shouldn't your post say "without Tarja? They will carry on, ...

Mike - is a bit of Tarot-whoring allowed here on this thread? I lov...

Tarja was kicked out.

I had 3 things to say! Nevermind.

Well, until the official Tarot whoring begins, let me begin by saying ...

I think Keith Richards can play into this somehow, as he can't be kill...

heh, Keith Richards in a metal army.

I was wondering if you have this album yet, and if not, I would be gla...

Hi Alex - the very man responsible for my love of Tarot! I know you...

Yeah I ment "without", Its just the way Shattered_Future sa...

Phew! That must have made you feel bad - thinking they'd packed it all...

Time will tell if they're still worth listening to, however.

I'm sure we don't need to worry about that, Tuomas hasn't left, and Ni...

No, I've purchased it already.

Which ones? I can YSI you anything from SOP or Stigmata (2CD EDN)

Yeah, Sonata rocks.

One thing I've noticed is that Tony has a liking for singing at half t...

Can someone send me some older stuff from nightwish and not off Tales ...

There's no such album as Tales Of The Oceanborn.

Oops Mike - all my ripped music is in wma.

OK, I've sorted it out Now fecking aol won't let me send email! ...

Ah, scotchy scotch scotch.

Ah! You are so lucky.

Eh, don't despair.

Thanks It really sucks because no good bands play here, except Giga...

This is from the PM Mailing List Thread, I thought it would be appropr...

It's too bad that you missed Symphony.

Agreed.

Don't be so impatient, next year is only a couple months away /NP ...

I haven't got any Dimmu Borgir - I asked for a track or two on the DM ...

Everybody hates Dimmu Borgir.

You can't take an image like that seriously.

My problem with Dimmu is the (harsh) vocals.

Black metal and good production do not go hand in hand.

I always saw that as kind of pretentious.

"Obnoxious squirrel" That's harsh, coming from you Ted ...

Is this a Nightwish thread or a Dimmu Borgir thread?

Technically it's a Nightwish thread, but we like to go off on tangents...

Since two weeks ago it's mainly been a Nightwish-OMG-they-sacked-Tarja...

That would be nice.

I love ICS Vortex's voice in Arcturus.

Vortex does backing vocals on some tracks of DCA.

i assume some of you people have Wishmaster? i know it was sent out in...

I think if you wait a few days or so, king_of_terrors is either gonna ...

ok, that's fine then .

If you haven't heard any Nightwish before, I'm pretty sure Century Med...

Hi Mike - I haven't been around here much in the last few days - too m...

Ooooo, monster drum kit.

That'll be cool Mike Magda has already sent the following Alt Lys ...

I believe it's Veteran's Day.

..You could have just requested it in the thread, I'm sick of it alway...

Thanks for the OMC Dene Nightwish's official site also has quite a...

You're welcome Magda - I tried to upload another for you, but it went ...

That it is And I have Draconian Times and Gothic by PL, thanks any...

What? No Shades Of God or Icon?

Looks like someone beat me to bumping your thread Ok then, if you ...

Whoa.

Awesome What did he think of it?

I think you'd better introduce him to a new concept; BYO.

I'm attempting to.

Ambitious that is! Oops, I went into Yoda there.

Ouch.

A Power Ranger in a Shakespeare play? WTF? Goofy stuff indeed.

So.

i'm starting to getinto this band.

Bullshit.

Not true.

As stated before, Tarja is NOT Nightwish.

Well, we already knew that (that Emppu is a hell of a guitarist).

well i felt that Tarja is what made me like the band , her opra vox is...

Tarja was a friend of Emppu's, originally, so when he got together wit...

I've recently found this band and I like them so far.

Depends.

Seems like they are interesting, but everything Ive heard already (whi...

Try Once.

With me, I bought Oceanborn first.

I can never find any bands music videos.

The first album I heard was Oceanborn; two songs and I was hooked! ...

Really, I applaud Tuomas for his using an opera vocalist.

So, I havent check here in awhile, Is there any news on the *new* nig...

I only know of two music video's that they have.

I have a few of their videos from random places.

I agree on the whole with that statement, Mike.

Very true.

Welcome to my world.

Well if you've got the time.

Yes, I'm quite interested as well.

The setting was a rather odd city that looked like a cross between San...

Awww, I had that one last week! Those criminal drug gang car chase ...

I had one like that.

I have loads of weird dreams - often I have those ones which you can't...

That's happened to me before, except I'd been listening to Therion too...

Bump Anyway last night I had watched the I Wish I Had An Angel video...

hate to say it but i see some of HIM in nightwish

That would be kind of hard, considering Nightwish came first, I'm pret...

HIM is much more mainstream , nightwish is definately better.

I don't think so.

i have a song called lothlorien - lord of the rings .

Opinion differs slightly on that, but for me it's Slaying The Dreamer.

Don't forget Romanticide.

Oh yeah, and Romanticide.

I liked it quite a bit.

Do you have it (SOD)? If not, I'll upload it for you.

I have it somewhere on my computer, I think I got it from this board a...

Crazy Train, i have heard a snip of them doing it on one of their dvds...

I'd love to hear them do a cover of Rainbow In the Dark.

Gates Of Babylon would be awesome - they could split the vocals into m...

Their cover of Wildchild was quite good too.

Something by Iron Maiden would be cool, like the Clairvoyant.

Mirror Mirror by Blind Guardian would kick arse!

Baracudda By Heart are they searchin for a new lead singer?

Presumably, unless they change their minds about Tarja.

(theory talk) So I'm trying to figure out the chord progression of ...

I was with you til "D minor" then you started in Greek ...

And Det_Nosnip, I read over you post for like the 4th time now, and I ...

Oh, it's elementary stuff, really.

wildchild? by enya?

No, by Blackie Lawless.

I'm all confused - where did that crap post from SonOfTheNorthernDarkn...

Somebody spammed my thread?! Bah, a mod probably took care of it.

Yeah, that guy said something like "I'm glad that woman's been ki...

Aaaaah.

Heh, same here, I'm horribly behind in music theory.

I just started taking a theory class in school this year.

Fourth page? What? Come on people, you made 1101 posts, don't stop now...

i never realised what a stinking little **** Tuomos is, i was watching...

That's pretty mean.

That's harsh.

Well, to play devil's advocate, firing someone is nowhere near as easy...

Tuomas said in End Of Innocence that if Nightwish was to continue, Sam...

All he time Tuomas kept mentioning what good friends him and Sami were...

he said he couldnt work with him anymore, that was it

That's smells like a euphemism if ever I heard one.

Ah well Marco >>>>>>>>>>>>>>...

Yea, perhaps firing Sami was a blessing in disguise.

And he has a great beard.

I couldnt believe how old Marco is when i first header, he really does...

Nope he doesn't.

How old is he?

He is about 39 i think

He's 40 in Jan 06 the 14th I think.

i knew he looked older but i dident know he was that old.

That is quite correct! He was born in '66.

Not in ozzy osbourne's case im afraid although he still made good re...

I think the line has to be drawn somewhere between "older" a...

I notice that, after the flurry of new posters having their say about ...

I bought Wishmaster and Century Child today.

Goes to show that people don't give a crap about the band unless somet...

Century Child, I find, is the lowest of all Nightwish albums on drama.

I already had the two, just not on CD.

Yeah.

I really enjoyed Century Child also.

I think that'll be "Forever Yours".

End Of All Hope and Everdream are my personal favorites from that one.

I love Slaying the Dreamer.

It's about the heaviest number they've done - I love it.

Yeah the middle part is pretty cool.

I love Century Child.

I can do that! /is smug and Ted could do it whilst reclining ...

Hahaha, who is Ted?

Ted is Det Nosnip's real mane.

Bah, you drummers are all the same.

So I am ordering Nightwish's Sonata Arctica's complete discography for...

Nightwish's and Sonata's complete discography? Nothing like being...

Well I don't think I'm gonna get any of the EP's or anything.

That's still a fair few quid!

Oh well.

Figure.

I already have two of Nightwish.

That doesn't include the DVDs though.

Aww, ONLY Nightwish and SA's full album discography? You should feel s...

Thats 7 CDs.

On the contrary.

Well my parents are just gonna give me the money and I will buy it.

I was SO upset to hear about Nightwish kicking Tarja out.

Did you just find out?

Not really I guess, but here that's over 200 bucks.

200 bucks are you insane? Once just came in the mail .

Nice to see ya back again Leah.

I was just wondering does this band have an actual singer or do they j...

The hell? Are you serious? You've never heard a single Nightwish son...

and even more .

Marco does have the dirty vocals, but he's just plain awesome so even ...

I love his dirty sounding voice though.

Marco has awesome parts in The Siren and Planet Hell too.

That's the shirt I ordered - The Siren.

Yeah, I liked him in almost every song he has sang in with Nightwish.

Planet Hell is my favorite Marco tune (in Nightwish, at least).

I just finished learning Crownless.

I am very very glad they have a singer and not that screaming growling...

Don't over-generalize.

I just recieved Oceanborn and am listening to it as we speak.

Having a soprano classically trained singer who performs in an operati...

Well in my experience most power metal has operatic singing, besides t...

Actually, almost NO power metal bands have an operatic singer.

"Powerful" singing is a really general term.

Well, compare those singers to a traditional male opera singer.

Oh, no question.

Try the "Once" album.

Hey Ted, I'll be uploading that Elfonia bootleg in the community threa...

I'll be interested in that.

I agree with that.

Actually, though a lot of power metal singer have some background in o...

What? I shall now compile a short list of PM bands that do not have...

A few more to add to that list: Kamelot Savatage Angra Blind Guardian...

Just a few then? Am waiting expectantly for the apparently huge li...

Oh, definitely! I am rightly obsessed with that group, especially aft...

I know this is really old news but i just found out that Tarja had bee...

Yeah, it certainly was a shock.

lol i can imagine.

I'm not sure.

I was a little shocked when she got kicked out, just because, well she...

Tarja's quite replaceable, actually.

No need to crush my power metal knowledge into the ground.

No, they really don't.

The only bands I can think of that have truly operatic vocals other th...

Actually, After Forever is a perfect case for demonstrating the differ...

I love Tarja's non-operatic vocals on Once.

I'll do that.

I can see why you'd get confused about that though, most people use op...

I love Marco's singing in Tarot - it's so raw.

That would be cool actually, thanks.

Sent The main riff in I Rule rocks I wanted to vote for him, b...

Man, sometimes it really sucks living in the most isolated capital cit...

Hey, I did that and i gotta say i agree.

He did not even join the band until some time after the making of Cent...

Well, the male vocals then.

Tuomas = God!!!! He's the best air guitarist out there.

Actually, he was on Century Child.

^^ Beaten to it.

I listened to Once non-stop while I was in Miami.

I've just saved my 2000th post to bump this, my favourite thread with.

Aaaawwww.

Those are the CDs I ordered!

No FWTE DVD? I should get Songs Of Silence eventually.

Yes the FWTE is the DVD, I just forgot to put DVD.

Ah.

Haha.

Nah.

Unfortunately I'm a dial up user, and those tasty vids take like eons ...

This one is an actual concert.

Ew.

I remember having dialup.

Haha they rock, even if they're still stuck in the 80's.

The 80s wasn't THAT bad.

Lucky! I have been listening to them alot also, and I got an awesome R...

I gotta remember to bring at least 70 bucks.

Hahaha, I hate how they scam you so much at concerts.

Meh.

I would say that 1980-1984 were good years for pop.

Well, U2 and the Police put out some quality stuff during that time, a...

Twisted Sister also, right?

Yep.

I like the song Burn In Hell by TS.

DB's cover of that song is so much fun to play.

It's the same thing except the beginning lead part, right?

I dunno, I've never heard the original.

Oh.

DB's version just has to be better than Twisted Knicker's original.

I wouldn't exactly call their music quality music.

I've only heard that song, I wouldn't know.

Let me guess - "We're Not Gonna Take It"?

No, Burn in Hell.

Right so! My crystal ball is misty today.

Haha.

Not my cup of char mate, but I ain't gonna flame them - each to his ow...

Ah.

Yea, Amazon has that sort of problem with it (I'm assuming you used am...

Yeah i use Amazon.

I got Angels Fall First rather quickly, but FTWE took FOREVER to ship.

Ugh.

Eh, it'll probably get there on time.

Oy.

Hell yeah! I meditate to that song sometimes.

Arghahahahahahahahahahahaha.

I don't really find that too funny.

Were you laughing at Pepsimetal, or Nightwish with the Arghahahahahaha...

I think that laugh was sarcastic Dead Boy's Poem is awesome.

I especially like the drum rhythm towards the end - I wonder why that...

Psh.

Yeah, and the FantasMic right after it makes it.

All the Nightwish shirts I found don't fit me.

Are the shirts too small or too big for you?

I love that song! Tarja paralizes me with her power on that song.

Yes, it is beatiful.

Christ Mike, what size are you? You may have to lay off the double ...

I must ask, what is everyone's least favorite song from Once? I can't ...

That's one of the best parts of the CD, actually.

I love that song!!! They could have shortened Dead Gardens near the...

My least favourite is, without doubt, Creek Mary's Blood.

Creek Mary's Blood? Really.

All that Red Indian chanting.

The beginning of Creek Mary's Blood is great, but near the end when th...

Creek Mary's Blood I always end up skipping.

What is Lagoon?

It was a bonus track released on the Everdream single, I believe.

Lagoon is indeed pants,but Creek Mary Blood still gets my vote as the ...

WHAT!?!?! I love Live To Tell The Tale.

What is Live To Tell The Tale?

A bonus track from the US edition of Once.

Aww Ted, you're making me feel bad about hating it now.

*sigh*

Creek Mary's Blood and Wish I had an angel are just awful.

"Planet Hell" is favorite Nightwish song along with "Th...

I love all of the Once album except for Dead Gardens.

A lot of people complain that not ever song by them has a solo or the ...

Yeah, but Tuomas rights pretty much everything.

Actually it makes a change to listen to some metal that doesn't follow...

I have yet to find a solo where Emppu shreds.

The Pharaoh Sails To Orion is your best bet.

I've listen to TPSTO a bunch but I guess I just always miss the solo.

It's the outro solo.

Ah, I will listen when Winterheart's Guild finishes in my CD player.

Another good cd.

I'm a fan of "GravenImage" off of that album, myself.

I think it really speaks much of Emppu's musicianship that he heeds th...

That's the main reason I listen to them!

Draconian Times = Cool.

That's one of the things that people forget about Emppu - that some of...

Emppu is truly a much better guitarist than most thing.

Along with Jukka's bloomin' drumming.

MM.

Nick's vocals are probably at their best on DT I grant you.

Oops.

Well I did some nosing around on the web, but all I could find on the ...

It makes sense.

Wasn't the whole reason the band did their music so slow was that Arch...

Suddenly this has turned into a PL thread Anyway, they could just ge...

It's still too early for me.

Haha, I'm sure that those same people were the ones saying how awesome...

Imagine the emotion then.

Sorry bout that - my PL thread died a death.

I listened to Oceanborn again today.

I'm really digging the live version of Beauty And The Beast.

I love that version too! Especially at the start, where Tuomas star...

It's got two of my fave singers of all time in it too! Tony does take...

Unfortunately, much as I love Tony the only thing that he can manage t...

I cant say i like nightwish that much, theres somthing about it that j...

A bit like english classes apparently

Can you (Dene) recommend me some NW songs with really good drums?

Total class!

On one of my Sonata Arctica CDs, it had a sticker that said "2005...

Stay out of my thread then.

Haha, that is funny.

He's not mediocre by any standards.

That DVD ships on January 8th :reallyreallyreallyreally: I will see ...

Yea, for some reason, Amazon gets really bitchy with that DVD.

Yeah their imports can get pricy.

I just got Oceanborn for christmas because I wanted to get into more p...

They're all good, man.

I would get Once, then Wishmaster, then Century Child.

get Wishmaster first.

Once and Wishmaster are their best.

Shut up.

Man, this is absolutly amazing music (I'm listening to gethsemane at t...

Yes, yes it is Austin! Haha! Dude that is one freakin awesome avatar...

It's mordor from Lord of the Rings lol, I was typing words on google a...

Shi! I'm getting a new avatar right now, this one is lame.