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Posted at February 27, 2016, 4:42 pm:

[rant mode] We've all heard all about it, but people, what is actually the deal? Why are there people not believing in evolution? Do fundamentalist religious groups really have that much influence on society? I heard about a big study (can't find it though) showing that only 40% of all Americans believe in it. Of course, the US is probably the worst out of the western countries because of heavy Jesusland propaganda, but still, I thought the middle ages were over even in America. 40% is not even funny as a joke.

Check this out: http://pewforum.org/surveys/origins/ It's actually not from uncyclopedia.org, it's a real survey about Americans beliefs on the subject. Only 48% say they believe that life has evolved over time, and only 26% say they believe in evolution trough natural selection, the darwinist theory. 26%? Maybe it's some form of humor which is too advanced for me, I don't know. 42% say they believe that life has existed in its present form since the beginning of time. Can I get a "WTF mate"? I also found this: http://anthropology.net/media/images/a_chart_of_the_united_states_disbelief_in_evolutio n (edit: link acts funny, try copy+paste), but it's so scary I'm just going to assume that it's incorrect.

So again, do fundamentalist religious groups (mainly talking about the US I guess) really have this much power, or what else is causing this ridiculous ignorance?
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i dunno, people are stupid.

Must say I wholly agree with you here.

I have never seen anyone argue against evolution without demonstrating...

Willful ignorance stemmed from superiority-complex dogma, combined wit...

http://www.

I wonder how many creationists we'd see if Genesis had been excluded f...

proven it? Really? Show me.

This point is void considering christianity finds it basis in the bibl...

You do know that the Biblical canon has been carefully selected and pr...

there has also been several animals/body parts/etc.

Search the forum if you want to find that thread.

I don't believe or disbelieve in evolution.

um i can show you the evolution of a bacteria in a lab in a matter of ...

Oh, here it is: http://sputnikmusic.

I don't disbelieve in all types of evolutions.

HMM I WONDER WHY ALL THOSE SCIENTESTS ARE FUNDED BY RIGHT-WING CHRISTI...

Well if you want to believe things selectively to make you feel better...

Hehe, I always think its funny that people say they "believe"...

oh.

It's not all, just most And i wonder why MOST of the scientists fight...

biblelife.

because they value logic.

you have yet to prove that belief in God is in fact illogical.

^i have, you're just too retarded to get it.

and why would you assume there are only religious groups in the influe...

that doesn't mean it's been proven like you said.

yes but ignoring fact and ignoring fiction are two dif.

which is why ignoring the "proofs" against evolution is wron...

the fact that you cannot empirically prove it's accuracy pretty much l...

science cannot prove a lot of things.

hmmm.

Personally it's not really my religion that says I don't believe in ev...

yeah except there is proof for evolution

Your a Jehova's witness.

i'm also loving the lack of any sources in those bunk websites you pos...

there's also proof against it.

inconclusive and biased proof where are you going with this

all proof is biased, is it not?

do you think it is?

that would be a collosal pwn if i said that they have proven the world...

and yet, you have failed to show how it has been proven.

except that part where i referenced to my ability to show you evolutio...

but you beleive that all humans, 6 billion, came from just 2?

sure.

to drewhat: ignoring what happens when you get brothers and sisters ha...

ahh, but i have listed 3 sites with evidence against it.

http://www.

thank you otherside for saving me the trouble

oohh you can post sites too, so how do those sites prove it anymore th...

You also might want to google the definition of the word "reputab...

you mean besides the fact that the websites you posted lack sources of...

because they're not biased bullshit, and are interested in the pursuit...

im sure there is.

Because I have never found anyone with a firm understanding of the the...

He is stating that people with real knowledge on the subject do not de...

Let's look at this The knowledge we already had came from the bible, a...

Okay, LittlePound, if we actually look at your source (which is a foru...

and surely there have been christians to take the opposite path

Well can I see some respected scientists that became Christians after ...

umm journalists and scientists are not comparable.

science and religion are not two warring sides.

1) Eskimos got to the arctic circle during/around the time of the ice ...

I said journalist/scientist/etc.

never heard of Anthony Flew? I could probably throw some more names ...

Hey LittlePound you arsecandle, why do you ignore my posts when I dest...

http://www.

i wasn't necesarily stating those sites as pure fact (especially not t...

Let's just focus on Anthony Flew.

quoted for truf

and both have studied and understood evolution completely?

Argh! We just tore down those sources because they're patently not ...

Lee Strobel has, a whole section of one his books was done on it.

Erm, you completely ignored me demonstrating that none of your sources...

The other two were, and lots of the points made in the forum one are v...

what scientific journal published your work on evolution? Let's just...

Fossils alone pretty much prove it.

If you actually believe that God needed to rest on the 7th day, as a l...

I'm a scientist.

look at this twit http://www.

that website is so white my brain almost exploded

The fact that we have tail bones, the fact that people are being born ...

None of them were valid.

That was a thread disproving the "'intelligent design" theor...

The bible never said he needed to, just that he chose to.

i never said he was a scientist but in every single one of his three b...

and he wouldn't just send messages to his emissarys about this why a...

what do you think the bible is? Also,(Why didn't Jesus tell people wha...

So an all powerful god with no physical body needs a nap time?

if you can't understand that there was no ****ing bible back then then...

What Is So Hard To Understand About He Didn't Need To, The Sabbath Was...

The bible is "God's spoken" word, and yes, that was around b...

LittlePound, I would still like one point from any of the sources (or ...

so why wasn't every other commandment done by example whats so import...

Take it to the Christianity thread.

I dont believe in the not so well constructed theory.

Didn't realize there was one.

BassRev.

no your completley switching your argument around.

no, your question was that says that Jesus didn't lead by example all...

How the hell could God break a commandment? They weren't even written ...

no it doesnt stop putting words in my mouth seriously why do you feel...

Um.

I agree - I've already started there, about creation.

he's a joke

Oh, so we're pretty much forgetting about Anthony Flew now? Because I'...

Pick a point.

No i haven't heard of the Old Believers in Russia.

There were two different versions of the Bible.

Pick 2 or 3 from that list and do it.

appreciate it bro

i did.

This is just a lie! No reputable evidence exists to back it up.

Sure.

You gave me a list of people whose works are not recognised as scientf...

having a B.

if you're talking about the translations of the bible (such as New Int...

umm more like he reworded it because you weren't getting it.

The earth is under 30,000 years old? Never heard this one in 6 years ...

Wait so what does that make atheist empiricists? Maybe you should rew...

Could it be possible both theories are valid? Maybe God created the wo...

deism.

No not according to the bible.

Yeah, your edit was correct.

only people who don't believe in evolution are the ones who don't unde...

Heh, well.

except it is technically proven.

yes i suppose if you want to be really anal retentive nothing can ever...

Evolution absolutely exists.

Anyone notice how the only "proof" proponents of creationism...

The people who try to prove creationism are using pseudoscience.

Yeah, I'm just feeling bad for the creationists on here getting pounde...

There is no proof for creationism, and there most likely never will be...

The "God is lazy and just wants to kick back and relax theory&quo...

Even if the Earth IS 3000 years old, it LOOKS like it's billions of ye...

First off, evolution is extremely subjective, whether science proves i...

No because music is subjective and and a scientific concept with huge ...

That one of the problems with creationist's arguments.

Good God.

" 12.

Evolution is not only inevitable, but compatible with most creation th...

I love baffling creationists with "okay.

i know someone who thinks god made the big bang happen.

some bafoon said that he "dosen't nessasarily believe in dinosaur...

Bio 101 kid.

That's not all that ridiculous, i personally don't believe it, but at ...

Explain carbon dateing.

Well carbon dating is very short term.

Now explain why Dinosaur fossils were dated to be billions of years ol...

1.

Ummmm yes they were.

I think the oldest fossils we have are like.

dictionary.

Well there are "scientific journals" denying the laws of phy...

I think you should read up on ID before making this claim.

Empirical evidence and an explanation for why our designer did such a ...

The relatively minor faults and complaints that you can (and probably ...

Yes they are minor faults Universally, but they're bloody important wh...

You don't need ot go on atheist websites to find pro-evolution materia...

Admit it, every time you call LittlePound an idiot you get a slight bu...

ok maybe just a lil

We have phogoraphs of Abe Lincoln, and first hand accounts of him.

Fossil records, muppet.

there is a lot more to it than just genetic similarity if evolution i...

Doesn't it make sense that a Divine creation would tend to follow a sy...

Serenity, quit your trolling and offer that empirical evidence for ID,...

well you can believe whatever you want about who did what but if ev...

Oldest discovered fossils are 450 million years old, I stand corrected...

well yes america has plenty of idiots but it also has harvard princeto...

Yeah they produce the biggest idiots of all

didn't your mother tell you that envy and jealousy is a very bad thing...

That's not jealousy that's just reality

Lol @ sin of pride.

Man even if I gave you proof, you'd just forget it a minute later and ...

Stop trolling me and answer the question.

As cave troll said, Fossils.

Show me empiracle evidence that the fossil record proves evolution.

You spelt empirical wrong even though I've spelt it properly for you s...

Where's the empiracal evidence that it does so?

Evolution is the inevitable result of natural selection and gene-shuff...

Lizards.

You don't need fossil records to prove evolution on the most fundament...

are you trolling or just being stupid or what :-\

I'm just being realistic dawg The only advantage those schools have...

seriously, why are people deformed and retarded sometimes if God forme...

That requires some knowledge of chemistry.

hahaha yeah keep tellin yourself that

You're just part of that collective circle jerk

yeah nevermind the research and fellowship opportunities or the studen...

Proof, proof! Oh, brave new world, god boy wants PROOF.

There's plenty of research and fellowship opportunities at schools lik...

Yeah I mean the superior teaching and the oppurtunity to learn in the ...

itt zero talks about stuff he has no idea about

Yeah I'm going to go to a college for its locales.

zero do you have friends because I can't picture you having friend...

Otherwise you'd be psychic

123

Theres no convincing people who dont want to believe in evolution.

Proof is for alcohol, maths and fundamentalists.

Perhaps we can facilitate this by giving treatments without considerin...

The concept of evolution was designed by God to test our faith.

That sounds like a capital plan! Learning through living, I say.

I hope that was sarcasm.

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yeah ok you replied to the wrong post there zeroc00l now lets he...

i believe in the big bang and evolution.

Gaia awaits thee, child.

The flying spaghetti monster clearly has boobs.

PERCISELY!!!! Now, tell me why there are so many idiots out there who ...

Oh, f*ck, look, you should read up on evolution.

I was trying to think of a way to say this earlier - hit the nail on t...

Aus rock god, you're giving examples of natural selection.

So - pardon my ignorance here - how does evolution differ from natura...

Well, natural selection and gene shuffling are the two driving forces ...

I know a lot of people who don't even believe in dinosaurs.

You know alot of retards.

Well, in the bug example, the black dots on the bug's back could have ...

You're mostly right.

Well, the black dots would have to be a mutation.

I know, there's a lot I missed in there, such as genetic mutations, ge...

Zero hasn't posted in a while.

It doesn't take him not posting to conclude that

natural selection was actually spoken about some decades before Darwin...

Anti-evolutionists, tell me why you feel the need to disregard modern ...

1.

Generally, I've found that devout Christians are the most strident ant...

I knew a muslim guy who didn't like evolution, but he was kind of a di...

I think of all religions Islam has the best view on science.

science is complementary to religion, it's when people use science to ...

Because you're the ones that critisize it most openly and most frequen...

BassRev is actually a Messianic Jew

Tell me why a subjective doctrine with no grounding but flaky history ...

Islam is much worse for disbelieving in evolution than christianity is...

you mix issues.

There is far more evidence in favour of evolution than against.

Doublethink?

really? Has no-one ever pointed out the sun to him?

http://www.

well, it came up in a discussion during a key skills module.

the sun isn't real.

BassRev: Why don't you show how evolution is not a scientific theory i...

actually no, this thread was asking what "the deal" was with...

I didnt say it was a non-scientific theory; I said it should not be us...

So why don't you show how it's not science and how it isn't a scientif...

Has it ever occured to you that the word "theory" has a slig...

quotes are there for a reason.

So now you're changing your stance from it's not "science" (...

Sure it is.

No actually, a "scientific theory" tries to explain why thin...

dont overcomplex it to generate a non-existant argument.

What proof is missing?

that im not here to argue.

Oh, so you're here to agree? Then why don't you do that? I'm not ab...

OK.

oh wait don't you mean you don't have any proof at all

thats not what this thread is about, and im not gonna waste another th...

Words have a meaning/definition for a reason.

BassRev, if you're going for the "proof" argument, you might...

no you call it a theory if you have any respect or understanding of sc...

Yeah, because the alternatives are so much more logical and consistent...

So if it was called the scientific law of evolution you would back dow...

natural selection is not evolution

yeah but they are significantly dumb enough to be irrelevant

I love the therory of evolution.

So wait this thread isn't about why you don't believe in evolution? Th...

its not about proving/disproving evolution.

I appreciate your contribution (without sarcasm).

Respond to my other post, please.

It's about why you don't believe in evolution, which is what I'm tryin...

ah, now i get you.

I've met some people who think that way, yeah.

Maybe not all of science, but certainly biology, considering that evol...

I'ver already addressed, in detail the flaw with the asking of proof (...

your argument fails because the more we learn about the cell the more ...

becuase it doesn't.

Evolution is the only logical conclusion to the combination of mutatio...

I love people who dont believe in dinoasaurs.

Dude you'd be surprised This is a group that thinks that reve...

Edward Blyth, who first wrote of natural selection, saw it in a creati...

Haha true noir.

God creates and destroys species in a manner designed to resemble evol...

Tell me then.

I hope that was a joke.

God is never a conlusion but always an excuse, a last resort when thei...

empty post

same way someone can disbelieve in big bang (Hoyle) yet be very involv...

If you believe God imposes circumstances that promote evolution, then ...

Imposing circumstances to promote evolution is not the same as god pra...

nope not at all that sort of dogmatic and backwards thinking belongs ...

Well in any case, I'm sure italic zero wasn't at all serious with that...

well what other options do creationists have?

learning anything about science in a manner which isn't laughably supe...

Matthew 7:48 "And I say on to you, do not learn anything that we ...

he lacked the evidence we now have.

Your forgot jeff 7:1/3 "and yeah, I would like fries with that.

Luke 23:14 "Vader is my father!" Maury 25:12 "Actual...

empty post

Hahaha you crack me up LOL

People don't generally believe in evolution because they have misconce...

So then explain why it's considered heresy to give evolution the consi...

I don't fully understand your point, but let's make it clear that Darw...

of course he did.

Anyone who understands the science behind evolution and believes in th...

Because there is empirical evidence to indicate that the theory of evo...

Research the stories in the bible, you will find most all of it is unp...

only if you show me evidence for your beliefs

this post had nothing to do with anything.

this is exactly why you are falling right into that generalization ...

No.

I could care less if anyone sees my disbelief as sensible or not.

Jude, you said that there is emperical evidence to indicate that the t...

educated people will see it as irrational because you provide no proof...

Well there's no absolute, tangible proof that evolution has taken plac...

and i have no problem with that.

But the fact is that mutations don't happen slowly over time, or at le...

Ummmmm.

A single mutation happens in one generation, or at least shows itself,...

I believe in mutations and evolution but I strongly disagree with the ...

This frustrates the f*ck out of me.

There's already evidence that the process is completely random: Tak...

Okay, show me hard, tangible evidence that god created everything the ...

1.

1.

Sorry to pester those of you who don't believe in evolution, but link ...

The theory of evolution is clearly as true as the theory of gravity.

I haven't read the thread yet but can someone quickly tell me how many...

that eye thing - hasn't been brought up yet, but I'm ready to counter ...

haha thanks

eccles ilu

i'm just doing my thing

lol

the only thing about evolution that makes no sense to me is where the ...

I've never really understood that either, but then I havent' exactly s...

There was actually a d0cumentary on the History Channel on this topic.

That doesn't mean they're true.

WOW, 17 pages on something so completely apparent? One question, why ...

I absolutely hate it when people fling around 'take a biology class', ...

that's fine, but littlepound really does need to take some biology les...

Dude, Jeremy, what happened to history as the major?

Considering we all have pretty much the same DNA and that if we were s...

well i think it goes something like this: Bob: You know, I just can't...

"SURVIVAL of the fittest does not tell us anything about the ARRI...

oh dr dino, you hilarious hilarious man

So wait--Eccles, Jeremy and I are all posting in the same thread? Man ...

Once every thread, someone has to explain that.

I know that there are artifacts that are billions of years old.

Since it seems to be relatively on topic.

it sounds like you are confusing macroevolution with macromutation, si...

empty post

Sorry, took awhile to even say what I had to say.

See the argument about the eye and apply it to anything you deem too c...

Wrong concept.

Fine.

It claims to challenge irreducible complexity, but it fails to make mu...

OK so what it boils down to is argument from ignorance, then.

Thats not what I said.

So Jez.

if {biblicalcontradiction=0} then evolmode=micro else evolmode=macro...

PRINT "oic" INPUT "This being the same bible what says...

Sounds like Johny Cochrane.

Yeah, Hovind doesn't really have a ton of credibility.

Yeah, at least Behe introduced a sound test for evolution with IC, and...

When I hear Dr.

That dog has to be my fave tv character of all time.

heres a little something i cooked up with the help of our friend Kent ...

here's a handy guide to making you sound slightly less ridiculous http...

I like how they didnt offer any ideas to argue against evolution.

It's a page of "arguments not to use", punk.

I know but I mean, you think theyd give you something to use after blo...

Ha, this guy knows his stuff.

lol ive read this before.

While we're at it posting websites.

Champ

Why are we still arguing about this? I thought we settled that intelli...

Because there's too many American idiots on this site

And note how all of them have been used at least once in this thread.

That's actually a huge logical fallacy though

Thats a pretty stupid thing to say.

And pretty rich coming from an Australian, let's be honest.

I don't think anyone's claimed dinosaurs are still around, yet.

They aren't? I swear I saw a T-rex just the other day

Hey man, at least our education system doesn't involve teaching fundim...

Your schools' philosophy cirrucula are lacking if they don't teach &qu...

Well, there's a very good reason why American hospitials are poaching ...

don't you live on an island nobody cares about? yeah i thought so.

wait what ahahah

Could it be that pay is higher in America? I'm pretty sure thats the s...

Don't you live in a country that 90% of the world wants to see bombed?...

spouting off bullshit like that is just as stupid as creationism i me...

everyone knows God made the world 200 years ago

Actually, it's hard to find anyone in Australia who have reletives fro...

So America was really their first choice for crims? Never knew that

Correct.

the austrailians are funny they all trace back their ancestry until...

Actually, most of us migrated from greece, ireland, scotland or asia.

They appear to have made a mistake, though.

*puts on his coat and hat* I'm gonna do just that motherf*cker

All arguments against evolution are absurd.

Hmm, and I thought Greece had the world's largest greek population.

well NOW YOU KNOW

DID YOU KNOW THAT?

like, I SO TOTALLY DID NOT

http://williamnye.

one that i was fed in church (and i am being deadly, completely seriou...

I still think the 2nd law of thermodynamics is the funniest, in my opi...

http://www.

That's pretty good, but "Were you there? The Bible was.

I guess yours scores points for being more amusing, though I'm attract...

Damn, that is better.

wtf? He said NOT YET.

Want me to prove evolution? Dogs.

I see many of the sources are from Creation Research Society Quarterly...

Oh.

Nah mate, you hav ta come down to Australia and cheek out awl our sub ...

he's being precise.

Not only am I a creationist, but I'm also a flat earth believer.

^^^

Evolution is a ploy devised by the atheistic scientists who seek to ro...

Proven? Thats why its called The Theory of Evolution.

So is the Theory of Relativity.

And music theory.

Sigh evolution is retarded.

By this you mean, "it is Trojan Kahn's opinion that evolution is ...

Seriously when parody starts to resemble reality the concept of parody...

How can you be so sure of yourself in your silly theories, Auberge? Yo...

I don't want to reply because I can't believe somebody would actually ...

Thanks for the post R+R.

You're very welcome.

Actually, I'm not welcome, but if you say so.

touché But when you post things like: I can't help but think that ...

I guess.

I see.

What is infinite? When we start to look with our eyes at all the s...

I sure hope this is supposed to be comedy.

i'm laughing.

I think a very wise man named George once said: "You can take a...

"Of course Lois, it's 'cause Christians don't believe in gravity.

hahahahahaaaa

family guy quotes aren't worth that many lols wtf

Creationists are, though.

But definitely worth the laughs.

Evolution is a fact.

"I think; therefore, I am.

"I think;therefore, i do not speak" -someone

if evolution is a fact, then why can it not be proven 100%.

man littlepound you are dumb

NO YOU JUST DON'T GET IT things are not BLACK AND WHITE th...

truth is black and white.

i know, thanks for pointing it out though.

2nd'd LittlePound doesn't even agree with me on most things.

Truth is relative but most of all it is subjective.

God could of course.

And you too, apparently.

Neo-darwinists don't need faith.

I'm not holy or righteous.

But you know the truth! So you must be.

I read this as "no-one".

But you can't state categorically that God exists.

I'm sure about god, but I'm definatly not sure about religion.

Natural selection and gene shuffling are observable phenomena of natur...

We do, by measuring how well an observation corresponds with what we s...

Well, actually, I belive the problem with the world is the we have a w...

Neither did God intend for any kind of clergy.

The entire concept of christianity, and God himself, were invented by ...

Hail THOR!!!!!

I second that! Why must all those dead pantheons be so much more in...

And Oden.

Thor would kick Oden's *** in a fight.

Nah, oden would outsmart him.

man you norse guys are idiots i mean FOOTBALL AND BEER AND TITTIES HEL...

My cats named Odin.

12 fucking 3 rep +

That's ace, really, so so good.

Hehe our good friend Steve is evidence of that.

WTF i thought we already settled this debate.

oh yeah now that you mention it, that is true

no, that was christianity.

No i thought i told you to stay quiet.

ahaha you didnt take out any becuase everyone hates you and -reps you

And for some reason, you retards think i care about points on a websit...

um if you didn't care why would you bother negative repping me? hypoc...

Cuz i knew you'd cry and i was right since you made a ****ing thread a...

just becuase you say rofl doesn't mean you're actually having fun qui...

Coming from a christian.

shit guys the game is up we can hide out at my house

I know.

I don't see why people can't stand by there religion and believe in ev...

adaptation.

The answer is: barely.

Guys, you do know that the ice age wasn't an all pervasive sheet of fr...

YOu guys nede to give mi teh facts abouts evolutions, I mean how did p...

Because God becomes a third wheel, more or less.

Well that is what I believe in, and Ozzfan66 also said so more or less...

Because most people have religion slapped into them from an early age.

Yes, or their personalities make them apt to accept such things.

Parts of christianity cannot coexist with science.

Ok guys I proved evol00ntion isn't real! http://www.

I love the assumption hat the erosion of continents is a neverchanging...

I love more that the sources given are from the 1960's

Please explain.

"in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

Plants being created before the sun is inconsistent with the evolution...

Or the sun being created after light

provide URL so I can read please.

Come on man.

I really hope you're joking.

I'm just after evidence to back up the comment.

http://www.

I would normally be with you on asking people for evidence, but come o...

If you didn't already know the evolutionary model then you simply don'...

Here's evidence: Think LOGICALLY.

ok ****heads, I am not arguing in this thread.

RockStar: http://en.

Evolution is no more logical than Intelligent Design.

How is intelligent design logical?

Intelligence design is not "logical" in the same way as beli...

For f*ck's sake.

observers don't talk; know your role plz

Roll a D12 to see if he shuts up And if not a D24 to see if he actu...

I have to argue for evolution at the next debate soc meeting.

Not necessarily.

they do coexist hehe

Selective reading indeed.

No, I have a very strong belief that the second people start "int...

which creation story do you go by?

Em, I really don't know the 'how' or the 'why' of the Universe.

no I mean which of the ones in the Bible EDIT: you seem cool though s...

What I never understood is why do people try to "translate" ...

No, because Jesus had shitty ideas about humanity.

Ah right, well I really don't know the Bible that well, but from the o...

"The Word of God" - well God didnt write the Bible, he was t...

That would mean the bible is wrong.

Because if we interpret God wrongly, we go to hell.

For the reasons I put forward already, you cant expect the Bible to be...

well if it can't be completely right why bother reading it literally

@matt_h: Atman's statement completely sums this situation up.

Not everything is intended to be taken absolutely literally.

of course but the new and old testament (conveniently) leave out expl...

So what do you believe the implications are of that? Do you believe th...

When will the Bible stop changing in meaning? When will people stop t...

The only truth it contains is that things somehow came to be.

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