Posted at April 29, 2015, 1:36 pm:
So I was in the cafeteria last Tuesday getting lunch. I bought a couple burgers. For three years now, no one minded me taking lunch food outside as long as I threw away my trash first (wrapper, tray, ketchup). Some students had been known to litter the campus. This was my first day back at school after a brief stint at another local high school. I had missed about a week and a half of school so I was making sure the rules hadn't been changed.
I approached one of the new principals and asked him if it was okay to take my food out. He said no. When I informed him of the rules predating the 2006 school year, he went ballistic saying, "Son, you aren't hearing me are you! I told you...!!" Anyway, I tuned out and said, "I didn't have to deal with this **** before," referring to his apparent attitude problem.
To make a long story short, I went to ISS for three days AND got a ticket. There wasn't even a report filed. The person who told the police was another assistant principal who overheard the principal I said it to when he was talking about it. One person heard it. He didn't think the police needed to know. I'm almost sure this is illegal.
Here's the situation:
What happened to free speech?
Say for instance you speak Swahili. Let's pretend the Swahili word for 'f---' is 'muffin'. Does this make muffin a bad word? Absolutely not. It would be illogical to say that a muffin could be both good and bad unless we're talking about two different muffins, which we're not. We're talking about the same muffin, the bilabial 'm', the way it extends through your pouted lips, the bilabial fricative 'f' which rolls from your teeth, topped off with a nasal 'n', an 'uh' and a short 'i', you get a tasty biscuit-roll hybrid, mixed with an insatiating fruit such as grape or berry.
'Muffin' is a tasty treat we can agree. There's nothing bad about it. One could argue a perverted muffin could be bad, but the word itself is inherently good.
If I had used the word 'muffin' to express my anxiety, would I have been censored? Probably not. Although it means entirely the same thing. Anyway, more later, I have to go to class.
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Replies:so you are saying they are only words so its ok to swear right? if you...
Lol you're from Texas, what do you expect?
"volumnius flush was seen yesterday soliciting prostitues" m...
It's a school, they make the rules, stop bitching.
Your argument makes no sense.
itt volflush gets in MAJOR trouble at his middle school and whines abo...
Where are all those free speech, free press, libertarian, liberal soci...
bitch please you live in america
free speech isnt the same as doing away with language.
But there are only a limited number of phonetics available to man.
but we make words.
itt volflush got in trouble for being dumb and now he is trying to rat...
Yeah, $150 worth of trouble.
yeah that sucks
but better to learn now than later
Yeah.
you can delete posts you know.
I think all conversations everywhere should be as vulgar as possible.
Sounds like you learned a lesson about rational discourse the hard way...
what kind of f'ucked up country do you live in that you were fined for...
True Fact: Obscenities are not protected speech
He probably should ...
yeah like detention or lines
not $$$
dont swear in front of your principle he wants respect
you've got to be ****ing ****ting me
****er
hmmm.
to TS.
TS.
A word is a word.
i've sworn in front of police before and never got fined so maybe its ...
If you cuss at a police officer, you can be arrested.
do you mean curse?
Cuss is curse is swear
This is the summation of my opinion.
I want to know why this thread is still open.
It's all about the conotation behind the word.
Meh, banning swear words is a terribly stupid idea.
You have my back on this one.
say that again punk
oh and i cuss in front of all my teachers, wtf?
that again punk
I guess no one caught my blueberry joke.
You're a Republican, but you want free speech? That's pretty contradic...
I was riding in a van with my brother-in-law and his guitarist one nig...
what's not to like
I think someone hacked The Tway's account.
No man you've been wrongfully charged
FREE ALL POLITICAL PRISONERS
Whatever happened to the wonderful quality incarnated in your beautifu...
I'm neither Democrat or Republican.
I think that it's up to me to save the GOP.
Zoroaster was better at that than you
and what's wrong with animosity...
Excuse me, but I'm rather average sized and skin coloured.
It is the suppression of the word that gives it its infamous meaning.
Is it more the person saying it and the listener? Example a black pers...
Free speech does not cover inflammatory (or obscene) speech, slander, ...
itt volflush is an ugly white boy who is still whining about getting i...
Hate to say it, but this is the truth.
'obscene' speech should be protected, so long as it isn't slander or a...
I don't know that I agree with this.
There are people that don't want their kids to hear that people die ev...
I don't mind if my kids hear about other people's point of views, but ...
Regardless of your views on parenting though we do not curb our right ...
then why should i curb my right from yelling "fire" in a cro...
You can go ahead and shelter your child from other people's opinions i...
RockAndRoll-
There are ways that parents can (and should, if they fee...
Inflammatory remarks do not violate free speech, so long as they don't...
That's a public safety issue.
i understand it.
Yeah I agree all adults should behave as though they're actually child...
I agree with this, mostly, although i do believe it's best to use comm...
I agree that people have the right to create policies and such, althou...
the authority for authority's sake means of conducting public school i...
Actually, language policies are not "authority for authority's sa...
If you're incapable of instilling your moral values in your children w...
according to some on here, i would fail becuase i believe in spanking ...
Well that's marginally better than shielding your children from realit...
Administrators need to learn that they're never gonna get through to t...
Bad parenting is sheilding your kids from finding out that there's mor...
You may call it "banning speach," but I call it encouraging ...
Precisely.
I really don't think that's how it went.
This would be the proper course of action for something you don't agre...
declaring the behavior inappropriate is arbitrary
it's also arbitrary...
looooool the irony
Nobody said you couldn't call out the boss.
calling a ****er a ****er isn't being out of control
it's being hones...
Ok, just thought I'd bring up a point about educational institutions p...
expelling people for being arrested is really stupid and not good for ...
Damnit, I just finished one hell of a post and got logged off!
Anyway...
ok whatever
so it's ok to tell a teacher to quit being a tightass just because I t...
you are in highschool (daycare) what do you expect?
college is way ...
Look, whether you like it or not, there has never been true 'freedom o...
why does context make it ok to call somebody a ****er
and why is the ...
But think about this:
Say you work as a teller at a bank.
I'm afraid he's right.
Funny, I'm one of the least strict teachers on campus, yet have almost...
Here I am!
And I will exercise my right by telling you you're a ****...
haha.
Romans 13:1
1Everyone must submit himself to the governing authoritie...
Religious law does not apply in public schools.
if he had swore at you wouldnt you be outraged?
ever heard of separation of church and state?
Yes it does.
That's what private schools and Sundays are for.
It's not a true search for truth if you're excluding possibilities.
The possibilities are numerous and available in many different setting...
Oh well I'm not saying that the school systems should rearrange the cu...
You're right.
the kids should be allowed to set their own standards
when a kid cal...
But doesn't God hate fags? That's what I read in The Holy Bible anyway...
Actually I won't admit my bosses are dickheads because they're not.
Lazy stoners setting their own standards.
angsty jesus freaks setting their own standards.
nothing random about it.
so you aren't one of the least strict teachers now
Uhh, you can catch pretty much anyone who acts like a total spatula to...
No one is a servant in the school setting.
Education is a service.
you're right if schools had some limited form of democracy the result ...
it is perfectly acceptable to exclude non-academic possibilities in th...
school is gay
i dunno about you guys but i had an awesome time in high school
i heard this story before
its fun in a lot of ways for me
but is v...
When searching for Truth, exclude no possibilities.
I think of all people students would be the last to want students to b...
good luck if you ever go into science then
I'm a Christian.
Well I'm never quite sure on these boards.
Oh I hadn't realized that teachers weren't providing a service
I gue...
You can be a willing employ and a servant.
You have to realize that students are there to get an education.
well apparently you're the only one
No.
No I wouldn't say ok
teachers aren't kids' parents
their relationshi...
Swearing reflects poorly on you.
Even if it does banning things for refelcting poorly on you is a stupi...
But it's a school, where you have no rights
Of course, I think al...
Don't forget the wippings for lefties!
/Is a leftie
/Swears alot
/Doesn't want to wear a uniform
I respect teachers who respect me.
I don't know how I feel about uniforms
but of course school should go...
That's awesome.
Actually, I realize students are there to recieve an education.
It's my personal opinion that the student body should have some say in...
I guess it depends on where you live.
No doubt, students should be able to vote for student council and othe...
I don't know if being forced to participate in a horribly ****er-up in...
Oh I didn't mean student gov't or council.
I think grades are the only thing teachers really have any right to be...
This is perhaps the first thing you've said that I agree with.
completely free uncensored speech in all fasions and aspects is a terr...
Oh, ok.
I can definitely see your point there.
No, that's definitely not true.
Thats just setting the structure of the class.
And who decides what deserves marks?
persons and instituations trained for such a purpose.
Also known as the schoolboards, andminstrators and teachers? Oh yes, w...
students should control that part
even if we were to preserve grading...
and.
I'm pretty sure I never said anything which could reasonably be confus...
External marking ftw.
Oh ok.
I was just saying that teachers do more than "simply enter them (...
Oh, well yeah of course.
What do you teach?
History ftw!
I thought so.
That was a threat.
I'm going to college to teach history.
Nice.
I realize that.
youre republican, youre automatically right, because youre the best.
no you were out of line why is this difficult to understand
**** you bitch he wasn't ****ing out of line
punk *** mother****ers d...
Schools tend to be bloated buearocracies.
The severity of general obscenities has three main factors:
1.
Its all pragmatics.
Its semantics.
If I got a ticket for cussing at school id rip it up in the cops face.
what
how many 'adults' have you seen get punished for swearing
Not many because most of them don't swear in those situations to begin...
you think most adults don't swear in social situations?
things must be...
At work (the adult school if you will) no.
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