Posted at October 27, 2014, 12:23 pm:
What if the countries, whos people are better off in not having threats like whats happening in the congo and middle east etc., opened thier borders unconditionally?
Sure that opens the door to terrorists, but it also squashes thier reasons for the terror. If the US said "no more war, we just want peace and offer it to everyone regardless of race/religion/color/nationality with provided transportation to those who cannot afford it" then we'd ultimately have no enemies, because we're not killing anyone. The people who still hold thier grudges will less likely to kill thier own families who are living there.
There would be immediate problems like housing, etc... but thats just more jobs needed, (building houses, setting up companies to accomodate everyone) so these people will have work, and so will the natives.
I see no other way for world peace, than world acceptance. We can't hide here forever. (we being the main population who are "free")
After we've created a home for humans, not just "americans" (since no borders means no official country status)
If you have to lead, you should lead by example, and with the population in charge instead of a government, I think we could eventually have world peace.
I welcome all ideas against this because if theres a reason it wont work, I need to concentrate on a new idea. thanks for reading.
jim
also, if youd like to read lyrics to my song/songs about this:http://www.angelfire.com/band/sealed/openup.html
specifiacally Madness behind method and Openup
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chicken stu, I'm not big on separation, (as was written in my first po...
It more than likely wouldn't "squash their reason for terror"...
Since this is apparently the "ideal world" thread, there's a...
I'll trade you three pigs for that child there.
Eliminator- I didn't say that it would end terrorism.
But then nobody would make stuff, so we'd have nothing to share
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So you're saying that by doing all of this, mankind will be able to el...
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a utopia would not be fragile, or it would not be a utopia...
Well, really I wouldn't say money is evil.
I think is rediculous to scream about a call for action against a prod...
You could always be like me and embrace it
I agree, greed is a hard thing to put aside.
Chrizzle-
I was speaking on a small scale.
The only way to achieve peace is to destroy the Israeli government.
...or you could fill that in with Lebanese, American, Korean, etc. etc...
No? What I'm saying is the basis of the Middle East conflict is the st...
Oh.
You can't have billions of people and none of them crazy.
Hey Joey, you're bringin down the thread with your realism.
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The only way to solve a problem of displaced civilians is to create mo...
Hey! I didn't say get rid of the Israeli civilians.
To someone who is living within the confines of a "utopia", ...
jimopenup, you make my head hurt.
The idea of uniting all nations, people and religions is one of the mo...
Everything that happens, happens for a reason.
Because if only I do it it's pointless since 1 person in 10 million do...
There's no way this many people can all agree to work together for the...
Mentality is not always the same in each person in a nation.
joey, I do not understand why you say this.
ugh utopia is impossible and pointless to work towards.
Okay, this is driving me crazy.
i always fuck that word up.
Anytime
sexymuffin, I don't love violence, I've not been extremely sheltered f...
Without real life to draw from, these "artists" wouldn't hav...
I didn't say violent movies must continue to be made, if an artist can...
I don't need violence.
of course you need violence, don't lie to yourself of all people.
I feel quite content actually.
do you like violent movies?
I like to watch them, because I know nobody is getting hurt for real.
so you like to watch violence, but you're saying you don't like violen...
Jim, think about this: What value does anything good have without anyt...
I've already answered this.
oh you're a stoner no wonder :/
hmm, well i never said anything abou...
btw, streetlight you said, "almost" almost means that there ...
sexymuffin, I may not belong in whatever group you place yourself in, ...
Don't misunderstand me Jim, the only reason I said almost is because w...
This thread is fun.
see this is why there can't be a heaven.
I can't see anybody going to heaven because heaven for me would be ***...
Sinful heathen - thats what you and your lot are like.
But you can do that right here on Earth? I doubt that you won't be bor...
yeah ok I still remain with my point of view, you still remain with yo...
streetlight, I still do not understand.
That glimpse is as inconsequential as a gain of sand in the universe.
What if there was something better than personal happiness? What if we...
anything is possible, and when thier is a will, there is a way.
You have an awful perception of heaven, heaven has nothing to do with ...
Yeah dude, Pay It Forward was a cool movie.
In this case it does.
You can do it, I promise.
Bah, see my thread about 90% of our brains for info on how to learn to...
paliente, we cannot achieve our goals without working towards them.
"How about the power of flight? That do anything for ya? That's...
never heard that, but thanks for the heads up, maybe I'll make one abo...
It's Tenacious D.
yeah, i understand what you're saying.
hahaha wtf show me that in the bible plz
yeah i fuked something up
anyway, youre perception of heaven is ho...
Do you know what heaven is?
In heaven you get to love Jesus all day and all night, and you get to ...
umm okay, from what i've read, heaven is a big place where we're free ...
yeah, i don't like practing my harp on a cloud with 10 billion people.
Heaven is by defn separate from earthly pleasures right? So instead of...
There actually probably wouldn't be housing problems.
why look forward to heaven if we can't even comprehend what it'll be l...
Heaven is what you want it to be.
You can read about it.
The result would be economic, political and labour-market destablilisa...
Umm, if we're all going to go to heaven or hell there still is no purp...
If you want to get to heaven you have to make advancements.
why don't we all just stop reproducing then? and just go to heaven
ok what
I pity you if you only value life becuase you think that it will last ...
I don't ONLY value life here because it won't end.
Was this even a rebuttal or what?
And I just hope that in due time ...
There is beauty in life, just in life, but I'm saying there is no poin...
Are you fucking retarded or have you just not been thinking about anyt...
The meaning of life is to argue about it.
orly
prove it
I heard a lecture where Roderick Long was actually discussing somethin...
but i'm talking about heaven, where dissatisfaction doesn't exsist.
i beleive he was referring to a society where all people are able to s...
well that's not what i was referring to
um no its not worthless, and it will matter even after the end.
What? Are you purposely circumventing the point by posting irrelavent ...
im saying youre degrading yourself to the level of my dog.
Why argue over the unknown? I don't because it leads to doing the exac...
yeah, let's make it so the world is equally shit.
Hahahaha what? "Degrading" myself? First off, dogs are not c...
orly stfu
so when if get upset, sad, angry or mad, it will be intensified by 1,0...
Yeah we all think we're independent.
uh man you dont get upset sad angry or mad in heaven.
I'm not.
"Futue te Ipsum- yeah, let's make it so the world is equally ****...
My post was directed at the OP.
what is OP?
You can't compare heaven to earth, that's it.
direct quote from the bible:
"There is no god".
They can choose to trust me or not and they can choose to check the bi...
You can say what you want, but it all looks like an excuse for this be...
^^ that's because it is a pile of bullshit.
Original Poster
TS = Topic Starter
thanks viper, I thought so, but.
Right on sexymuffin, that guy is an idiot.
I'm saying everything is different in heaven.
alright so basically you have no evidence to support any of your claim...
I did not know John Lennon posted on MX.
theyre on russian
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