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Posted at March 29, 2015, 2:16 pm:

Alright after much time has passed I finally decided to re-write this theory, and to fortify it better.

Now my theory that Im proposing is that Madara is controlling Itachi from the shadows. Now Im not exactly sure in which form he is doing this, however Ive thought of a few.

The main one Im proposing is that Madara is controlling Itachi from the inside. In which Itachi and Madara are sort of sharing the same body. I believe that Madara has not only been training Itachi for most of his life but teaching him also. Itachi is by far one of the greatest genius from Konoha and has demostrated that countless times by surpassing all his age at the time. Now I understand its not impossible for him to simply be a genious considering that Kakashi became a chuunin at an earlier age, and its hinted that Gaara surpased him when taking the forest of death test.

Now back to my proposal

To begin with is the ever popular phrase
"I killed them to test my container"

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/7130/chapter22416yp9.th.png

Now this phrase of "container" is as uncommon as it comes... maybe not
actually Orochimaru uses this phrase all the time when hes refering to his new body


Itachi also mentioned that he continued to act like the older brother Sasuke desired.

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/9293/narutoch224p196npgz9.th.png

I believe that around that point he was nearly fully possessed by Madara, other examples where he was fully possesed are...

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/8063/chapter22212qa7.th.png

and when he regained consciousness, or at the very least returned the act for Sasuke

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/6800/chapter22218hz2.th.png

Also Judging by the way he acted during chapters 220 and 221, you can notice the major change in his personality occured around the time he joined ANBU, now ANBU is far too secretive and the manga has shown next to nothing so Ill just leave it that when he was strong enough to join ANBU it seemed he began to distance himself.

Itachi also mentioned how he despised all the rules set by the clan, all the limits that were holding them back. Itachi being only 13 at the time couldnt have possibly its potential.

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/4163/chapter22212by6.th.png

Itachis Mangekyou Sharingan, While he did hint that Shisui helped him get it, he never directly mentioned he killed Shisui, but he did deny it. Also considering the other brash actions he did, admitting to killing Shisui would seem almost like a drop in the bucket.

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/86/chapter22503lq2.th.png

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/7821/chapter22302sk1.th.png

By the time Itachi was interrogated by the 3 Uchiha police, he already had the Mangekyou, not to mention that if we do believe Shisui commited suicide, there would have to be a reason. I believe that Shisui commited suicide after Itachi used Tsukuyomi on him. Thus making the letter that was shown to be actually written by Shisui even if it could have been forged.

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/870/chapter22207ba7.th.png

Note - I may have forgotten a few things in the re-write

Original of the message was taken from http://www.stoptazmo.com/

Replies:

hmmmm.

nvr thought of it tht way.

Everything you said is completely possible, though I only have one pro...

im thinking he was upset the entire time he preached about how they...

quite possible, it could b kinda like rand & lews therin in wheel ...

"it's not wise to judge others by their appearance" this mig...

I don't believe in this theory.

Well, now that Kakashi has it, Itachi might try to get Kakashi to join...

Lmao.

That might be another possibility, wich makes me think, if there's thi...

I can't remember exactly.

He said three not four, and the way that he said it was apparently ver...

No, it's three.

he said 3, but considering that he was extremly surprised when kakashi...

Or that there is another MS user that haven't been introduced yet; or ...

I have to admit that dante obscuri's theory is one of the best theorie...

I thought that Itachi meant skunk.

I didnt want to mention anything like that because everyone thought th...

That's true like how Lews Therin is inside Rand's head and can sometim...

I don't quite belive the Madara possesion theory, it just doesn't look...

I don't really believe it either but it could lead to something.

I like this theory.

Itachi means weasel, which is associated with death in Japanese mythol...

This theory is an extension, or based on what people has said in here,...

im certain that uchiha madara's dead/super old geezer.

No, when Itachi talked about 3 MS users, he refered to himself, Sasuke...

well that's my speculation.

Then, my friend, you're agreeing with me, since Itachi said the thing ...

hee.

He never said anything about having a 3 people were required to have t...

The time Itachi said the thing with three people having MS if Sasuke o...

Is it truly a requirement to kill your best friend? I mean what type ...

Why does everyone assume this? When has a major character died without...

We never saw the 4th's corpse, and he's dead (unless you think he's th...

He has been mentioned outside of Kakashi Gaiden numerous times, and ba...

We saw a near dead corpse, and we were told by the 4th that he died, n...

We'll see eventually anyways, Tobi can't keep that mask on forever if ...

It's okay, but the problem is that you're basing it on stuff like, a c...

My guess is that it continues at the last state it was in as in if ...

You can't really say "what he said that night isn't something a y...

That's a problem in and of itself, how can Kakashi get any kind of sha...

Because he activated the 3rd tomoe? The sharingan get's fully activate...

(I think) The power of the sharingan comes from the user, not really t...

I always thought that Kakashi couldn't turn off the sharingan, he can ...

You're right, he doesn't cover it just for looks and give him a myster...

He always covers his eye in the manga.

And my theory is that it's because Tobi always keeps his on, like I sa...

Not even Itachi can maintain his Sharingan all the time.

Truth in a manga = Deus ex machina.

I"m gonna luagh if your wrong :P, kishimoto isn't known for his o...

obito's dead???1!!! j/k i understand up opinion, but theres some pl...

True.

That only happened in the anime, genius.

what about when Naruto supposedly was killed by Kabuto and came back t...

He would have shown the burial of Obito? He was buried by rocks.

OK.

One more thing Obito is alive hehe.

i get it that you want obito to be alive but his fricking face was cru...

He didn't drop it, he tossed it and failed to catch it (this was when ...

I think he can use it but it may not be his style.

Quite the rebuttal there.

yes that's true but he said that every ninja should know how to counte...

to my dear senior member yoko_kyuubi: it doesn't matter if Jiraira is...

Thanks for the compliment.

about that, more ninjas came and completly buried him so theres no way...

I think Kakashi confirmed it himself along with the Fourth.

LOL.

You phail.

Rin seemed to care even more than Kakashi, she didn't want to leave Ob...

Kakashi would know better than anyone if Obito is dead or alive.

I reread the chapters that showed the scrolls and I think I see how th...

that ring he was in sealed his chakra, even if he COULD retreat he pro...

We aren’t exactly sure how seals work, remember the ones in the chunin...

The rules are flexable sometimes.

this is sort of a bump I just wanted to mention I severly changed t...

I might be out of the line asking this but what happened to rin I dont...

I've always believed in this theory, from the first time you posted it...

So far, that's just speculation.

He's someone who fought with Shodaime as an equal, and he's someone wh...

Umm, that hasn't been confirmed yet.

I figured "Hey, if they build huge statues of them, standing agai...

That's all we know.

That's true, they didn't name the other dude.

That "Bloodline of the Tengu" theory seems more tempting day...

isnt it already??

yeah i agree wif u.

Don't forget that Naruto is a bit of a mystery too.

The overshadow might be big, that just means Naruto's story will incre...

I wouldn't know, really.

If kishimoto does something as good as the Tengu Theory, then he'd be ...

thats why we need toriyama

It's not about just power, but plot.

why the hell not ? we could also make the best mangakas fuse among the...

Seconded.

Nah we should get kentaro miura to do naruto that would be awesome

A plausable theory but it rely's far to heavily on what is not said as...

I agree.

Originally I planned to only make it about how he uses the word contai...

oh yeah, he said in an interview that naruto is his 'sweat and blood' ...

so that stuff about an orange sharingan and the akatsuki leader being ...

yeah,that´s what i think too about the fourth(with this whole &qu...

i think that every night a 4 am kishi comes to stoptazmo and reads abo...

zomg is this a confession!!! NEW THEORY YOKO_KYUUBI IS THE KISHI...

Damn Dude how did you know ?

No, Blue-Nite is teh Kishimoto! His total post count for today was 18,...

I think Kishimoto is a nickname used by various authors.


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