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Posted at July 29, 2018, 6:56 pm:

Considering the scale of valid, scientific training knowledge that does exist, it's curious that more do not avail themselves of it. One would think that even those who are skeptical that less than one hour of training a week is all that is required for optimal progress, might at least consider the possibility. For those immune to the blandishments of logical theory, there is ample evidence - the success of myself, Ray Mentzer, Dorian Yates, Casey Viator, Aaron Baker, David Dearth, Roland Kickinger and my thousands of clients - that high-intensity training does produce worthwhile results. Even if high-intensity training yielded only the same results as volume training, it wouldn't be valid to say that they were equally productive. Obviously the one that involved less actual training time would be the most productive.


I suggest that all sincere exercise scientists read the following statement, which was made by Vert Mooney, MD, "Accurate measurement of muscle strength must be done in an isolated static manner. This method of testing allows for the identification and correction of gravity and other sources of non-muscular torque, and it also eliminates the movement artifacts of impact forces and friction. Static testing allows for a true maximal measure of voluntary effort and accurately co-relates position and torque.

"The dose of effective therapeutic exercise can be determined by measuring starting functional ability (strength, range-of-motion and endurance) accurately. The goal is to prescribe a specific dose of exercise that will elicit a predictable, measurable response." (From the Introduction to "The Lumbar Spine, the Cervical Spine and the Knee," by Arthur Jones.) Dr. Mooney is professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at the University of California School of Medicine, San Diego.



A Heavy Duty, high intensity training program is very, very safe. It is not like a typical powerlifting program involving the use of very heavy weights that allow for only one to three reps. That would be properly designated a high-intensity, high-force program. The level of force imposed on the joints, connective tissue and muscles would be very high; and if extreme caution was not exercised, and any bouncing, jerking or yanking occured, the impact (G-force) could multiply several times that of the actual weight itself and, of course, cause an injury.

A properly conducted Heavy Duty workout involves the utilization of weights that allow for up to ten or more reps to failure. Such is properly referred to as a high-intensity, low-force program, and is quite safe.

Some are reluctant to embark on a high-intensity program because they mistakenly believe that the last rep of a set carried to a point of momentary muscular failure is dangerous. On the contrary. The last rep of a set carried to failure should be the safest because, by the last rep, the trainee is at his weakest, barely able to generate enough force to complete the rep. It is the first few reps, when the trainee is freshest, and able to exert more force than required to move the weight, that are the most dangerous. If, for instance, you are doing a set of Barbell Curls with 100 pounds for ten reps to failure, no rep requires that you exert much more than 100 pounds of force to complete it. On the first few reps, when the individual is fresh, he usually completes them relatively quickly, exerting well above 100 pounds of force. On the last rep, he is barely able to move the weight at all, exerting just enough force to complete it - maybe 101.1 pounds. Therefore, the last rep is the safest so long as proper technique is employed.

Original of the message was taken from http://forum.bodybuilding.com/

Replies:

Where is the study or at least a reference for this set of anecdotal c...

That's a good one I've yet to see anyone training to failure using pe...

Nevermind that Mentzer perscribed 1-3 reps to failure on the incline p...

but only after pre exhaustion and a static hold with it.

His workout included rest pause / negative training in which you would...

Actually I did try Heavy Duty before.

Hi there all, Nice post king.

thanks wayne.

I need to get on that routine!!! How much does it cost??

WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT.

oh yeah i forgot to mention.

What are you talking about.

This might be the funniest post I've ever seen.

Hail kingfish!!! Even the poor Mentzer would turn in his grave if he ...

Just giving some basic respect.

Hi thee all, Ask "me" a question on HIT.

BULLSHIT! When Mike personal trained me, after paying him big money, h...

i was personally trained by mentzer and talked to him several times.

BULLSHIT, he liked it, I questioned him too and he did anything but li...

post your exact routine you did without saying the one in the book.

For a lot of people, strength more often then not, preceeds size.

If you're gaining strength without size then most likely you're not ea...

I like HIT but I’ve also done “volume style” workout...

IrronAddict doesnt seem to bright in the common sense area.

has anyone ever pointed out that at least three of the most famous HIT...

Hi John23Ring, Well I’m sure many people are aware of this bu...

^^^ well said.

I think it's fairly obvious to anyone who was familiar with Mentzer th...

Hi John83Ring, Thanks for relying, although I don’t think you...

Well said.

No, just the ones written by pro BBers.

Hey Kingtroll, lets see your alleged training clients.

Yates is 43 years old and won 6 Olympias.

it's a moot point with bodybuilding, because everyone is on so many dr...

I've learned that in 'Mr.

with a post like this, you should be careful about broad generalizatio...

i posted my yahoo groups, the shows i was on and gave you links along ...

Well post it again, lets see Kingtroll.

whatever you said iron dick.

You have NOTHING to post and if your lame analogy showcases your fault...

make sure to listen to dorian on the bodybuilding radio here.

Pros always give the best training advice.

Kingfish, your reluctance to post any links to your clients upon reque...

Kingtroll, Show us some training client results that the TRAINING C...

from my filled my box and my 50 plus emails a day i receive i would ha...

I really don't know why you are aruging guys.

So WHERE ARE THE CLIENTS?? SHOW THEM TO US, YOU CAN SEE MINE AND THEIR...

We really need a forum appropriately titles " WHO FAWKIN CARES &q...

Awnold, This guy is CONSTANTLY posting about how "this client ...

its not about the clients either.

A trainer that claims it's not about the clients? Wow, I hope all you...

For some, even one set for certain body parts may prove more than the ...

Refer to the "who fawkin cares" forum idea.

No no, i said that in reference to him.

nice post awnold.

A good training journal makes a HGUE difference.

Well tell them to wait in line.

I broke my own rule.

yeah we can go watch king kong since more movie is better than less.

My chest and back and basically everything is still sore from a couple...

you do know that is mentzer hit right.

yup but vince grinada was trainign people in the 40's and 50's with th...

It's not mentzer hit.

Wow.

Hi, Mentzer and hit, is great for both gains in size & strength, ...

= steroids

true jackdoor, i almost have some clients with too much muscle.

This is not exactly true, Vince had numerous programs for hypertrophy ...

Still it's high volume.

vince would still have someone do hit over volume anyday of the week.

Recall that exercise is a form of stress, and like other stressors, ju...


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